London Fire Brigade institutionally misogynist & racist

London Fire Brigade institutionally misogynist & racist

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bitchstewie

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54,592 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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This sounds nasty.

London Fire Brigade institutionally misogynist and racist - report

Not sure if it's isolated or tip of the iceberg a bit like perception is that the Met seem to have a lot more bad apples than other Police forces.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,180 posts

77 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Well I wouldn't want my house fire put out by a racist.

Flumpo

4,024 posts

79 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
This sounds nasty.

London Fire Brigade institutionally misogynist and racist - report

Not sure if it's isolated or tip of the iceberg a bit like perception is that the Met seem to have a lot more bad apples than other Police forces.
Wow, I was expecting to read about some non pc jokes, but it’s hard to believe anywhere like described in that article still exists in Britain.

I’m not sure setting out to officers in future what’s right and wrong, can deal with officers who think it’s ok to sneak into womens bedrooms looking for sex toys when doing house visits to advise on smoke alarms.

DeejRC

6,340 posts

88 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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It paints them in a very very poor light frown

biggbn

24,711 posts

226 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Is anyone really surprised at this?

bobbo89

5,492 posts

151 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Flumpo said:
Wow, I was expecting to read about some non pc jokes, but it’s hard to believe anywhere like described in that article still exists in Britain.

I’m not sure setting out to officers in future what’s right and wrong, can deal with officers who think it’s ok to sneak into womens bedrooms looking for sex toys when doing house visits to advise on smoke alarms.
Yeah it's hard to believe in 2022, it reads like something from 20 odd years ago!

bitchstewie

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54,592 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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biggbn said:
Is anyone really surprised at this?
Honestly yes.

I don't know much about the fire service but I'd assumed it was a professional organisation and the stuff in that article goes way beyond anything anyone could consider "banter" or "pc gone mad" or what have you.

It's abhorrent behaviour in any workplace.

Lotobear

7,029 posts

134 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Well I wouldn't want my house fire put out by a racist.
Indeed, I would insist on seeing their diversity and inclusion policy before letting them in

bloomen

7,234 posts

165 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Well I wouldn't want my house fire put out by a racist.
I only allow Brexit-voting emergency workers within a mile of me.

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

54,592 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Some odd comments.

Do racists and misogynists get a free pass because they put out fires?

Venisonpie

3,520 posts

88 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Appalling that this exists in 2022, disappointing some don't see it as serious.

FBU claiming this is something they've been highlighting for years and morale is low due to (amongst other things) poor work life balance.

I wonder if they'll be supportive of disciplinary action against their "members" if they're found to have behaved in the way outlined in the report. As for poor work life balance, they work 2 days, 2 nights and have 4 days off. I'd say that's a better balance than most people get.


Last Visit

3,001 posts

194 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
Some odd comments.

Do racists and misogynists get a free pass because they put out fires?
I don't always agree with a lot of your posts but this one is spot on.

I mean, we wouldn't tolerate a racist misogynistic police force just because they're great at solving crimes.

TDK-C60

2,334 posts

36 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
Some odd comments.

Do racists and misogynists get a free pass because they put out fires?
Very odd.

This report should be shocking to anyone decent. And yet it doesn't seem to be, does it?

You can only speculate that those wanting to downplay or make excuses are perhaps perpetrators?

biggbn

24,711 posts

226 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
biggbn said:
Is anyone really surprised at this?
Honestly yes.

I don't know much about the fire service but I'd assumed it was a professional organisation and the stuff in that article goes way beyond anything anyone could consider "banter" or "pc gone mad" or what have you.

It's abhorrent behaviour in any workplace.
I'm supposed at your surprise man, it is shocking behaviour but sadly such behaviour will show itself when groups of men are left to their own devices virtually unsupervised for long periods of time. Society has a problem with that kind of behavior and the light being shone upon it can only be a good thing although I woukd suggest we actually need to be teaching things like morals, ethics as part of a philosophy programme from as early as primary school to derail this unfortunate hate train.

TheLurker

1,408 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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biggbn said:
Is anyone really surprised at this?
Yes. I didn't bother reading the BBC article this morning as I assumed it was some over dramatic conclusion because a man once held the door open for a woman or something. I didn't believe that this type of stuff still goes on - I certainly hoped this to be the case.

I can but hope these are isolated incidents and it's not as institutional as it appears.

eldar

22,529 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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biggbn said:
Is anyone really surprised at this?
Yes, this is way beyond any pretence of acceptable workplace humour- and has been for half a century.

Rufus Stone

7,713 posts

62 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Well I wouldn't want my house fire put out by a racist.
Well you made me laugh.

Virtue signallers apparently have no sense of humour, and Stewie is the King. biggrin

GranpaB

9,014 posts

42 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Has anyone blamed the Tories yet?

Scotty2

1,317 posts

272 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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I think there was a cartoon "Documentary" about how Firemen spend their time. Surprised it has not been posted. Actually it would break posting rules I think.

It was in Viz.

TwigtheWonderkid

44,430 posts

156 months

Saturday 26th November 2022
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Rufus Stone said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Well I wouldn't want my house fire put out by a racist.
Well you made me laugh.

Virtue signallers apparently have no sense of humour, and Stewie is the King. biggrin
I'm not sure you know what virtue signalling is.