UK net migration hits all-time record
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63743259
UK net migration hit 504,000 in the year to June - the highest figure ever recorded, The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimates
If you look at the actual numbers, there are one-offs in there that would skew the numbers
Ukraine - 170k
Hong Kong - 76k
I suspect this year will be an outlier, and it will be interesting to see what 'normal' post brexit immigration numbers are.
UK net migration hit 504,000 in the year to June - the highest figure ever recorded, The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimates
If you look at the actual numbers, there are one-offs in there that would skew the numbers
Ukraine - 170k
Hong Kong - 76k
I suspect this year will be an outlier, and it will be interesting to see what 'normal' post brexit immigration numbers are.
Randy Winkman said:
Meet the new grift, same as the old grift.For some perspective that is almost the population of the City of Manchester added in just one year
Whichever way you look at it, regardless of your political persuasion or views on statehood or borders and freedom of movement, it is simply unsustainable
Can anybody argue that we should be growing our population by that amount every year without a corresponding uplift in housing, social care, healthcare, schools etc
Is it right we do so ?
Whichever way you look at it, regardless of your political persuasion or views on statehood or borders and freedom of movement, it is simply unsustainable
Can anybody argue that we should be growing our population by that amount every year without a corresponding uplift in housing, social care, healthcare, schools etc
Is it right we do so ?
Earthdweller said:
For some perspective that is almost the population of the City of Manchester added in just one year
Whichever way you look at it, regardless of your political persuasion or views on statehood or borders and freedom of movement, it is simply unsustainable
Can anybody argue that we should be growing our population by that amount every year without a corresponding uplift in housing, social care, healthcare, schools etc
Is it right we do so ?
Did you read the article?Whichever way you look at it, regardless of your political persuasion or views on statehood or borders and freedom of movement, it is simply unsustainable
Can anybody argue that we should be growing our population by that amount every year without a corresponding uplift in housing, social care, healthcare, schools etc
Is it right we do so ?
What basis did you use for taking a particularly volatile metric with several one-off circumstances and extrapolating it to suggest we are growing our population by that amount every year?
oyster said:
Did you read the article?
What basis did you use for taking a particularly volatile metric with several one-off circumstances and extrapolating it to suggest we are growing our population by that amount every year?
Nope can’t read either, both unavailable What basis did you use for taking a particularly volatile metric with several one-off circumstances and extrapolating it to suggest we are growing our population by that amount every year?
It’s not a volatile metric .. it’s actually something we should all think about …. A city the size of Manchester population wise was added to the U.K. last year
It’s not a one off, the population is growing every year .. we don’t need faux outrage but a grown up conversation about it
What IS an acceptable level of inward immigration for you and would that be legal or illegal migration or both ?
Are you happy that that happens with zero growth in infrastructure?
Earthdweller said:
It’s not a one off, the population is growing every year .. we don’t need faux outrage but a grown up conversation about it
A) turning a one year figure with circumstances explaining it
B) declaring it the rise every year and
C) not bothering to read the article,
faux outrage and not grown up conversation?
Dingu said:
Isn’t:
A) turning a one year figure with circumstances explaining it
B) declaring it the rise every year and
C) not bothering to read the article,
faux outrage and not grown up conversation?
No, I can’t read the article, not can’t be bothered too, nor can I read the second one because it’s paywalled .. that’s a difference A) turning a one year figure with circumstances explaining it
B) declaring it the rise every year and
C) not bothering to read the article,
faux outrage and not grown up conversation?
The total inward immigration was up despite Ukraine and Hong Kong BNO nationals ( 89k UKr visa scheme, 70k BNO )
Earthdweller said:
Dingu said:
Isn’t:
A) turning a one year figure with circumstances explaining it
B) declaring it the rise every year and
C) not bothering to read the article,
faux outrage and not grown up conversation?
No, I can’t read the article, not can’t be bothered too, nor can I read the second one because it’s paywalled .. that’s a difference A) turning a one year figure with circumstances explaining it
B) declaring it the rise every year and
C) not bothering to read the article,
faux outrage and not grown up conversation?
The total inward immigration was up despite Ukraine and Hong Kong BNO nationals ( 89k UKr visa scheme, 70k BNO )
Keir Starmer is right. Britain needs to wean it self off cheap immigrant labour.
Like many things, the Government should have began implementing a comprehensive plan on doing so before Brexit was initiated.
But then successful Governments should have been ensuring houses and infrastructure were being built in sufficient numbers.
I'd guess a good number of that net increase in migration is healthcare workers from the Phillipines and similar nations.
Like many things, the Government should have began implementing a comprehensive plan on doing so before Brexit was initiated.
But then successful Governments should have been ensuring houses and infrastructure were being built in sufficient numbers.
I'd guess a good number of that net increase in migration is healthcare workers from the Phillipines and similar nations.
S600BSB said:
Britain also needs legal immigration if we are going to get growth in the economy anytime soon. Never mind filling the huge number of vacancies in our public services.
Does that generate growth thoughGiven our year-on-year increases it does not seem so. I guess a not insignificant part of that is money leaving the economy through remittances
Bannock said:
Randy Winkman said:
Meet the new grift, same as the old grift.and you female family members won’t be attacked ,
Ivan stewart said:
Bannock said:
Randy Winkman said:
Meet the new grift, same as the old grift.and you female family members won’t be attacked ,
Ivan stewart said:
Bannock said:
Randy Winkman said:
Meet the new grift, same as the old grift.and you female family members won’t be attacked ,
They whinge about schools yet probably don’t have kids of school age. They whinge about hospitals and GP’s, but the problem there is more a lack of government spending, skilled labour (nurses) and a govt that appears to be hell bent on destroying the NHS so that they can privatise the thing.
Me personally, I see immigration debates as the right wing media’s way of stoking division amongst the population. It has always been there and always will be there, so why do folk worry about it?
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