World population passes 8 billion not sustainable ?
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World population has doubled in 50 years is that growth sustainable and is it the main factor contributing to climate change?
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
But the increase is already slowing down due to reducing birth rate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
Randy Winkman said:
But the increase is already slowing down due to reducing birth rate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
That’s a known factor as nations become more prosperous, you don’t need spares so have less!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
Off the top of my head I think there’s only two countries in Europe that have sustainable birth rates .. Ireland and Hungary
Look at China or Germany to see population implosions as their aging populations are now incapable of replacement
Earthdweller said:
The world population was 3.5bn in 1966 I seem to recall the experts saying once it reached 5bn we’d all starve, there’d be wars, and famines and well allsorts of nasty unsustainable things as we went into the new ice age oh wait that didn’t happen either!
Experts eh
That's because away from the sensationalist news people listened and worked on the problems. GM crops to improve yields, various policies and technologies that ensured we never turned the air completely toxic etc.Experts eh
That's how progress works, it doesn't mean the experts were wrong.
The issue is less the total numbers but the rapid urbanisation being seen around the world as populations tend to group together. This is placing massive pressures on cities, many of which have long been unable to cope. The worst affected cities suffer from poorly regulated housing so much is off-grid dwellings so cannot receive normal public services. By the time they sort it out, there's another 5m people living there.
The solution is to disperse economic activity over a wider area to dilute over-concentration of populations. Easy to type..... not so easy to do.
The solution is to disperse economic activity over a wider area to dilute over-concentration of populations. Easy to type..... not so easy to do.
Earthdweller said:
The world population was 3.5bn in 1966 I seem to recall the experts saying once it reached 5bn we’d all starve, there’d be wars, and famines and well allsorts of nasty unsustainable things as we went into the new ice age oh wait that didn’t happen either!
Experts eh
4bn extra mouths to feed + keep warm + sell cars to etc. You don't think it matters at all?Experts eh
TX.
Edit - for me it is a much bigger issue than slightly warmer Summers.
Randy Winkman said:
But the increase is already slowing down due to reducing birth rate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
Have less kids? One per couple would do it. Whenever I see 3 kids or more in their parents EV https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63623307
Nevertheless, I think it is a big problem but I'm not sure what we can do about it other than do our best to cope.
TX.
Thomas Malthus was banging this drum over 200 years ago and has been wrong ever since. Population will peak this century. Food, fuel medicines and other trappings of development are available to more people than ever before.
We are living through an extraordinary age of abundance and in important ways we're doing it cleaner than we used to. As people get richer they demand cleaner air and rivers and a nicer environment.
They also have fewer children as they get older and so population becomes self managing. It has already peaked in much of the world and will peak for the world as a whole this century.
It is sustainable.
What is not sustainable is having a bunch of self-righteous politicians inventing crises and dreaming up nonsensical rules to solve them.
We are living through an extraordinary age of abundance and in important ways we're doing it cleaner than we used to. As people get richer they demand cleaner air and rivers and a nicer environment.
They also have fewer children as they get older and so population becomes self managing. It has already peaked in much of the world and will peak for the world as a whole this century.
It is sustainable.
What is not sustainable is having a bunch of self-righteous politicians inventing crises and dreaming up nonsensical rules to solve them.
BoRED S2upid said:
8bn crikey where are they all? Not on our tiny little island that’s for sure.
Assuming you mean Britain, and aren't typing from Bere or Lindisfarne or somewhere, it's not a tiny island. Not even close. Depending on if you count Australia or not, Great Britain is the 9th or 10th biggest island in the world, out of the best part of a million islands. That makes it a really, really big island. 
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