Labour promising to give billions to other countries!

[anonymous-user]

The U.K. economy is on its knees and Miliband is already saying Labour will give billions to other countries to fight climate change ! Politicians are deluded. How about fixing the roof in the U.K. if you want to get into power before spending tax payers money abroad on climate issues. We are not exactly short of areas in the U.K. that are crying out for funding !

[GranpaB]

Apparently with opinions like that, makes you a racist.

[cgt2]

Do you think they should build a wall in the sky?

[bitchstewie]

Oh man you're gonna be pissed when you see what successive Governments actually have given to other countries in Foreign Aid

[otolith]

If the first world doesn't help developing countries to side-step fossil fuels in their ambition to have a little bit of what we've been enjoying (at the expense of screwing the climate for everyone else), all the changes we are making to our own consumption will be in vain.

[anonymous-user]

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues. The U.K. is broke let’s see the rich Middle East countries and those making billions from fossil fuel price escalation pay the climate bill of other countries but of course they won’t. U.K. has gone soft and it’s on a one way street to ruin and it’s not from climate change it’s from its own younger population who have grown up to live in a fantasy world of cheap free money and politicians see it as an easy vote to pander to their views. They are in for one big shock, years of unserviceable debt and increasing poverty

[irc]

Since 80% of our energy is fossil fuel it is a bit hypocritical to tell poor countries they can't use a fraction of our energy but need to use intermittent and expensive wind and solar.

No need to pay billions to poor countries to decarbonise.

[Dingu]

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues. The U.K. is broke let’s see the rich Middle East countries and those making billions from fossil fuel price escalation pay the climate bill of other countries but of course they won’t. U.K. has gone soft and it’s on a one way street to ruin and it’s not from climate change it’s from its own younger population who have grown up to live in a fantasy world of cheap free money and politicians see it as an easy vote to pander to their views. They are in for one big shock, years of unserviceable debt and increasing poverty

I think you’ll find the older generation have benefited from the U.K. magic money tree. Pretty much every fiscal decision made for decades by the government has been for their benefit.

Your point is undermined by the fact that younger people vote less.

At least if you are going to be a hypocritical doom monger (the MSM hurt my mental health etc etc even though I post as much negative stuff as they do) try and be educated about it.

[irc]

As for the overseas aid budget? I,ll support reversing cuts once we stop sending cash to countries which choose to spend their own cash on nuclear or space programmes.

After all we aren't giving them spare cash. We are borrowing money to give it away.

[Countdown]

OP - Is this what you're on about?

i.e. sending aid to Countries that have suffered disasters as a result of Climate Change? I think that's different to "helping them to fight climate change", in fact it sounds more like disaster relief.

[otolith]

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues.

You are aware, I would imagine, that we only have one atmosphere which doesn't respect territorial boundaries?

[sociopath]

Wait until you see how much the tories have wasted in ill thought out financial decisions, and handed to their pals.

[anonymous-user]

otolith said:

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues.

You are aware, I would imagine, that we only have one atmosphere which doesn't respect territorial boundaries?

Tell that to the Chinese and all those other countries polluting the world. Oh of course you love buying all those Chinese made products. Talk about hypocritical. Come back when you have stopped buying things made in countries that are pumping out massive amounts of pollution with everything they make for the west

[otolith]

cc3 said:

otolith said:

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues.

You are aware, I would imagine, that we only have one atmosphere which doesn't respect territorial boundaries?

Tell that to the Chinese and all those other countries polluting the world. Oh of course you love buying all those Chinese made products. Talk about hypocritical. Come back when you have stopped buying things made in countries that are pumping out massive amounts of pollution with everything they make for the west

The Chinese are amongst the countries which I believe should be reducing their own CO2 emissions and helping others to reduce theirs. HTH.

[anonymous-user]

Dingu said:

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues. The U.K. is broke let’s see the rich Middle East countries and those making billions from fossil fuel price escalation pay the climate bill of other countries but of course they won’t. U.K. has gone soft and it’s on a one way street to ruin and it’s not from climate change it’s from its own younger population who have grown up to live in a fantasy world of cheap free money and politicians see it as an easy vote to pander to their views. They are in for one big shock, years of unserviceable debt and increasing poverty

I think you’ll find the older generation have benefited from the U.K. magic money tree. Pretty much every fiscal decision made for decades by the government has been for their benefit.

Your point is undermined by the fact that younger people vote less.

At least if you are going to be a hypocritical doom monger (the MSM hurt my mental health etc etc even though I post as much negative stuff as they do) try and be educated about it.

There was no magic money tree in the 60’/70’s the country was broke so we’re most of the population. From what I see the older generation who started with nothing and worked 70 hours a week spend their time now giving money to their kids and grandkids who don’t seem to be able to budget and want everything immediately without saving for it. Multiple holidays, phones , designer clothes, 2 posh cars on pcp oh and dad we need a few quid for the kids as we seem to be skint and can’t cope.

[Ivan stewart]

otolith said:

The Chinese are amongst the countries which I believe should be reducing their own CO2 emissions and helping others to reduce theirs. HTH.

I’d like the moon on a stick ..

[chemistry]

irc said:

After all we aren't giving them spare cash. We are borrowing money to give it away.

This often gets overlooked, sadly.

I often hear people say "We're the fifth richest house in the world" yet our debt is £2,200 billion and deficit £300 billion. We're currently broke and shouldn't be borrowing money to send abroad.

[Randy Winkman]

cc3 said:

Dingu said:

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues. The U.K. is broke let’s see the rich Middle East countries and those making billions from fossil fuel price escalation pay the climate bill of other countries but of course they won’t. U.K. has gone soft and it’s on a one way street to ruin and it’s not from climate change it’s from its own younger population who have grown up to live in a fantasy world of cheap free money and politicians see it as an easy vote to pander to their views. They are in for one big shock, years of unserviceable debt and increasing poverty

I think you’ll find the older generation have benefited from the U.K. magic money tree. Pretty much every fiscal decision made for decades by the government has been for their benefit.

Your point is undermined by the fact that younger people vote less.

At least if you are going to be a hypocritical doom monger (the MSM hurt my mental health etc etc even though I post as much negative stuff as they do) try and be educated about it.

There was no magic money tree in the 60’/70’s the country was broke so we’re most of the population. From what I see the older generation who started with nothing and worked 70 hours a week spend their time now giving money to their kids and grandkids who don’t seem to be able to budget and want everything immediately without saving for it. Multiple holidays, phones , designer clothes, 2 posh cars on pcp oh and dad we need a few quid for the kids as we seem to be skint and can’t cope.

My experience is that if they have it, many/most older people have always been generous with providing money to their children/grandchildren.

[anonymous-user]

Randy Winkman said:

cc3 said:

Dingu said:

cc3 said:

It’s not up to us to solve the problems of the world we can’t even sort our own. Try giving the nurses a decent pay rise or funding social care so that our old people can be looked after etc before thinking about spending billions on other countries climate issues. The U.K. is broke let’s see the rich Middle East countries and those making billions from fossil fuel price escalation pay the climate bill of other countries but of course they won’t. U.K. has gone soft and it’s on a one way street to ruin and it’s not from climate change it’s from its own younger population who have grown up to live in a fantasy world of cheap free money and politicians see it as an easy vote to pander to their views. They are in for one big shock, years of unserviceable debt and increasing poverty

I think you’ll find the older generation have benefited from the U.K. magic money tree. Pretty much every fiscal decision made for decades by the government has been for their benefit.

Your point is undermined by the fact that younger people vote less.

At least if you are going to be a hypocritical doom monger (the MSM hurt my mental health etc etc even though I post as much negative stuff as they do) try and be educated about it.

There was no magic money tree in the 60’/70’s the country was broke so we’re most of the population. From what I see the older generation who started with nothing and worked 70 hours a week spend their time now giving money to their kids and grandkids who don’t seem to be able to budget and want everything immediately without saving for it. Multiple holidays, phones , designer clothes, 2 posh cars on pcp oh and dad we need a few quid for the kids as we seem to be skint and can’t cope.

My experience is that if they have it, many/most older people have always been generous with providing money to their children/grandchildren.

The difference is if you grew up in the 60’s/70’s your parents and grandparents had nothing so you expected nothing and got nothing. Today younger generation just expect money from their parents and grandparents as a way of life mainly because they spend so much in comparison on holidays cars entertainment etc.

[bitchstewie]

So what's your actual complaint here?

What Labour have said they might do?

Or that the actual Government haven't given nurses the pay rise you think they should have nor have they given social care for the elderly the funding you think it deserves?