Germany to repeat the same mistake

[anonymous-user]

So having got it so wrong with Russia and shafted the whole of Europe on Gas prices Germany is going to make the same mistake and jump into bed with China. They can’t ride two horses they are either the new puppet state of China or they are with the west

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMidGh0dHBzOi8vb...

[BabySharkDD]

Isn’t Chinese gas sourced via Russia anyway? So now Germany will be funding both China and Russia?

[Murph7355]

It's comforting to get proof that it is not only our government who are utter fkwits.

Maybe Germany should start spending loads of money on getting energy security on the green front.

[Timothy Bucktu]

BabySharkDD said:

Isn’t Chinese gas sourced via Russia anyway? So now Germany will be funding both China and Russia?

Yes, exactly. Germany NEEDS that Russian gas by any means. China is just being used a proxy payment middle Man.
Ze Germans eh?!

[Kawasicki]

Murph7355 said:

It's comforting to get proof that it is not only our government who are utter fkwits.

Maybe Germany should start spending loads of money on getting energy security on the green front.

Energy security
Green

Pick one

[Electro1980]

Kawasicki said:

Energy security
Green

Pick one

Eh? How do you get to that? Gas and oil are
a) not green
b) controlled mostly by less than savoury regimes

Unless you are suggesting we go back to burning coal, literally every green energy source is more secure than fossil fuel. The issue is that we have refused to invest because we have put short term cost over long term security, which could be the motto of the British government.

[Kawasicki]

Electro1980 said:

Kawasicki said:

Energy security
Green

Pick one

Eh? How do you get to that? Gas and oil are
a) not green
b) controlled mostly by less than savoury regimes

Unless you are suggesting we go back to burning coal, literally every green energy source is more secure than fossil fuel. The issue is that we have refused to invest because we have put short term cost over long term security, which could be the motto of the British government.

Germany have invested massively in green energy over the past 30 years.
Germany has poor energy security.

How can that be?

[mikebradford]

Electro1980 said:

Kawasicki said:

Energy security
Green

Pick one

Eh? How do you get to that? Gas and oil are
a) not green
b) controlled mostly by less than savoury regimes

Unless you are suggesting we go back to burning coal, literally every green energy source is more secure than fossil fuel. The issue is that we have refused to invest because we have put short term cost over long term security, which could be the motto of the British government.

Apart from in this instance the UK has lead in developing green energy as a big proportion of its energy use.

Very few countries are 100% able to provide all their own energy requirements.
Those that can export, which is why Germany in particular are looking to do a dirty deal

[Kawasicki]

mikebradford said:

Apart from in this instance the UK has lead in developing green energy as a big proportion of its energy use.

Very few countries are 100% able to provide all their own energy requirements.
Those that can export, which is why Germany in particular are looking to do a dirty deal

Er, green energy supplies a tiny fraction of UK energy requirement.

[Hereward]

Kawasicki said:

Er, green energy supplies a tiny fraction of UK energy requirement.

How do you mean? Live data shows that 46.5% of GB's current electricity requirements are being met by renewables (Solar, Wind & Hydroelectric).

[crofty1984]

Kawasicki said:

Murph7355 said:

It's comforting to get proof that it is not only our government who are utter fkwits.

Maybe Germany should start spending loads of money on getting energy security on the green front.

Energy security
Green

Pick one

nuclear

[Donbot]

crofty1984 said:

nuclear

I don't think there is any uranium mining in western Europe.

[jet_noise]

Hereward said:

Kawasicki said:

Er, green energy supplies a tiny fraction of UK energy requirement.

How do you mean? Live data shows that 46.5% of GB's current electricity requirements are being met by renewables (Solar, Wind & Hydroelectric).

Apples/pears.
Energy/electricity.

[Murph7355]

Donbot said:

crofty1984 said:

nuclear

I don't think there is any uranium mining in western Europe.

According to the Internet, much of it doesn't come from sthouse regimes:

About 96% of the global uranium reserves are found in these ten countries:

Australia, Canada, South Africa, Brazil, Namibia, the United States, Niger should be broadly OK (African ones might be in China's pocket).

Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Russia are obviously questionable.

[Dingu]

Kawasicki said:

Energy security
Green

Pick one

Drivel

[Donbot]

Murph7355 said:

Donbot said:

crofty1984 said:

nuclear

I don't think there is any uranium mining in western Europe.

According to the Internet, much of it doesn't come from sthouse regimes:

About 96% of the global uranium reserves are found in these ten countries:

Australia, Canada, South Africa, Brazil, Namibia, the United States, Niger should be broadly OK (African ones might be in China's pocket).

Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Russia are obviously questionable.

It still isn't independent energy security for western Europe though. The price of reactor fuel has shot up in times of high demand, making Nuclear even more horrifically expensive than it already is.

[Eric Mc]

For a moment I thought the thread title might mean they were intending to invade Poland again.

[Electro1980]

Kawasicki said:

Germany have invested massively in green energy over the past 30 years.
Germany has poor energy security.

How can that be?

Invested like the way it shut down it’s nuclear plants, therefor moving its base load requirements from nuclear to fossil?

[Electro1980]

mikebradford said:

Apart from in this instance the UK has lead in developing green energy as a big proportion of its energy use.

Very few countries are 100% able to provide all their own energy requirements.
Those that can export, which is why Germany in particular are looking to do a dirty deal

It has, but it’s not been enough. If we had invested more in nuclear plants 20 years ago, along with the wind/solar/tidal etc. then we would be in a much better position than we are now. But that would have cost money.

[Camoradi]

Eric Mc said:

For a moment I thought the thread title might mean they were intending to invade Poland again.

I think these days they just fund invasions.