Next Labour Government will be a dictatorship ?

[anonymous-user]

If you believe the opinion polls we are moving to a single party type of dictatorship running the country. Labour will have total control the opposition will look like the Labour Party. Can’t think that will be healthy for our democracy

‘A dictatorship is a form of government characterized by a leader or group of leaders that hold government power with few to no limitations’

[bitchstewie]

Plenty of people seemed to think it was pretty healthy when Johnson won an 80 seat majority.

What's changed?

[otolith]

bhstewie said:

Plenty of people seemed to think it was pretty healthy when Johnson won an 80 seat majority.

What's changed?

For what it's worth, I agree with the sentiment that too large a majority is an unhealthy thing, but when the Tories have proven themselves utterly unfit to govern, whose fault is that?

[anonymous-user]

Tory party can fail as far as I’m concerned but it’s impossible for small parties to have the apparatus to gain other than a token seat so by default you end up with Labour the SNP as official opposition bleating every week about independence with little interest in the rest of the U.K. doing well.

It would be a most unhealthy type of Government. Amazing with everything going on the poor old Lib Dem’s are making no inroads and they seem to be parked in a permanent lay-by. You never hear from them. If you can’t make hay now you have zippo chance

[otolith]

LDs may do OK in those seats where they can't quite bring themselves to hold their noses and vote Labour?

[bitchstewie]

Sorry but I'm not really seeing an answer there.

People seemed fine with it when Johnson won an 80 seat majority back in 2019.

What's changed?

[Bill]

cc3 said:

It would be a most unhealthy type of Government.

It is, currently, a most unhealthy type of government and has been for a few years now.

[Randy Winkman]

Surely if that happens we can blame it all on the Conservative party for being so useless? Blaming it on the opposition seems to be the thing for some PHers.

[Dr Jekyll]

bhstewie said:

Sorry but I'm not really seeing an answer there.

People seemed fine with it when Johnson won an 80 seat majority back in 2019.

What's changed?

The speculation is that the majority would be so large there would be no credible opponent in the next election.

I don't think it would be a dictatorship unless Starmer was quickly shown the door and someone like Mcdonnell got in. But it could be effectively a one party state like Scotland. Remember Blair's claim that Labour was the political arm of the entire British people.

[anonymous-user]

Not a question of blame just a fact that one party Governments are usually pretty unpopular around the world. If there is no opposition there is no hope for democracy

[bitchstewie]

Dr Jekyll said:

The speculation is that the majority would be so large there would be no credible opponent in the next election.

I don't think it would be a dictatorship unless Starmer was quickly shown the door and someone like Mcdonnell got in. But it could be effectively a one party state like Scotland. Remember Blair's claim that Labour was the political arm of the entire British people.

I don't recall cc3 or yourself complaining about the size of Johnson's majority in 2019 though.

Are you really that transparent that it's only a problem if it's a Labour government?

[Bill]

cc3 said:

Not a question of blame just a fact that one party Governments are usually pretty unpopular around the world. If there is no opposition there is no hope for democracy

I think you're confusing 1 party government with 1 party states.

We currently have a 1 party government with no way to get rid of it until its term is up. Even if Labour gets a bigger majority that won't change.

[Dr Jekyll]

bhstewie said:

Dr Jekyll said:

The speculation is that the majority would be so large there would be no credible opponent in the next election.

I don't think it would be a dictatorship unless Starmer was quickly shown the door and someone like Mcdonnell got in. But it could be effectively a one party state like Scotland. Remember Blair's claim that Labour was the political arm of the entire British people.

I don't recall cc3 or yourself complaining about the size of Johnson's majority in 2019 though.

Are you really that transparent that it's only a problem if it's a Labour government?

I'm not complaining about this, just answering the question as to why some people might be concerned.

[bitchstewie]

Apologies so just cc3 then

[CzechItOut]

cc3 said:

A dictatorship is a form of government characterized by a leader or group of leaders that hold government power with few to no limitations’

How is that any difference to where we are today? We have a Tory party which is an absolute shambles, no PM and no mandate from the population to govern the country. Yet there is absolutely nothing which can be done to even force a General Election.

[biggbn]

bhstewie said:

Plenty of people seemed to think it was pretty healthy when Johnson won an 80 seat majority.

What's changed?

Was just about to post similar. Everyone likes apples until ya gotta eat someone else's apples in somebody else's orchard.

[ZedLeg]

Is cc3 Liz Truss posting through her troubles?

[Diderot]

CzechItOut said:

cc3 said:

A dictatorship is a form of government characterized by a leader or group of leaders that hold government power with few to no limitations’

How is that any difference to where we are today? We have a Tory party which is an absolute shambles, no PM and no mandate from the population to govern the country. Yet there is absolutely nothing which can be done to even force a General Election.

They do have a mandate to govern the country. We elect MPs not a president; doesn’t matter who leads the party as long as they can hold a majority in the House of Commons.

[otolith]

biggbn said:

Was just about to post similar. Everyone likes apples until ya gotta eat someone else's apples in somebody else's orchard.

Those are surely the best sort of apples, especially if the owner of said orchard doesn't see you and set his dog on you?

[otolith]

Also - given the recent history of Labour's internecine warfare, I don't think you can assume that Starmer would get everything through unopposed, even with a stonking majority.