Oxford Traffic Filter System Consultation

Oxford Traffic Filter System Consultation

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Oliver Hardy

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2,983 posts

80 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/traffic-filter...

Come across this while searching for something unrelated.

They are only allowing 7 days consultation, although I guess there isn't any point on doing a consultation because the outcome has already been decided.

normalbloke

7,647 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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7days?

Jimbo.

4,016 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Oliver Hardy said:
https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/traffic-filter...

Come across this while searching for something unrelated.

They are only allowing 7 days consultation, although I guess there isn't any point on doing a consultation because the outcome has already been decided.
Unless I’m missing something, the consultation period has been open since 5th September, and closes on 13th October?

Not that it matters: it’s happening. A bit more st atop the already calamitous st show that is Oxford traffic.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Oliver Hardy said:
there isn't any point on doing a consultation because the outcome has already been decided.
Exactly this. Always.

Solocle

3,585 posts

90 months

Wednesday 12th October 2022
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Jimbo. said:
Oliver Hardy said:
https://letstalk.oxfordshire.gov.uk/traffic-filter...

Come across this while searching for something unrelated.

They are only allowing 7 days consultation, although I guess there isn't any point on doing a consultation because the outcome has already been decided.
Unless I’m missing something, the consultation period has been open since 5th September, and closes on 13th October?

Not that it matters: it’s happening. A bit more st atop the already calamitous st show that is Oxford traffic.
Like you say, Oxford traffic is calamitous.

What isn't mentioned here is that there is a permit scheme for residents.

It's an experimental order, and, if it achieves the desired effect, should help reduce the traffic quagmire in Oxford. It'll be interesting to see.

DeejRC

6,341 posts

88 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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It’s Oxford, the only objective the council has to remove all cars from the road, by hook or by crook. Their two main weapons in this are legislation and ever larger and more appalling potholes and sink holes in the roads. Or just ensuring the A34 and/or A40 remain in gridlock for as long as possible.

Bathroom_Security

3,439 posts

123 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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Why does this happen? I mean how do like minded antis get in such positions

normalbloke

7,647 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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Bathroom_Security said:
Why does this happen? I mean how do like minded antis get in such positions
Apathy.

dandarez

13,404 posts

289 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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Bathroom_Security said:
Why does this happen? I mean how do like minded antis get in such positions
It happens because the Lib-Dums have basically got control of the County Council. These days 'normal intelligent everyday hard-working people' rarely put themselves up to become councillors, we're all too busy living or trying to live our lives made so much harder by these prats who love one thing only, control. If they have a hobby-horse you will suffer! In their case it's predominantly the 'car'.

These people are so out of touch they couldn't see sense if it hit them in the face. I've worked with lots of them. The majority don't even see the problems the public face, they are so completely out of touch.

The Lib-Dums specifically should change their name to 'bks to Cars, We Hate Them Party'.

They have turned Oxford upside down with their anti-car stance (the second highest car parking charges outside of London tells you that).
Earlier this year they said they'd implement 20mph limits elsewhere, including on several roads in the town of Witney.

Most to date have not materialised. Why? Because in parts the traffic crawls at 10 mph anyway because of the High Street now closed to main traffic. The irony is that Oxford itself partially empties at weekends because so many now get in their cars and head towards the 'free' parking in Witney. Almost 6 quid for under an hour in Oxford makes it a no-brainer, even with the cost of fuel today!
When the police were approached for their role in the matter of these proposed 20mph limit zones in Witney, they responded that they could/would not be enforcing any 20mph limits.
When told this, the Lib-Dum response was 'Oh ok, well we'd like to think that most drivers will think about the environment and stick to 20 mph.'

One word (it should be 'bks' like on their childish t-shirts) but I won't be that rude... 'Clueless!'

Puggit

48,770 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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Did that 'consultation' really ask my view on how someone's gender identity will be affected by the changes?

Piersman2

6,633 posts

205 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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These 'consultations' aren't worth the effort in responding, the desired answers have already been designed in.

I did one a few years ago on something for Reading, some kind of new traffic scheme for accessing the town centre.

I got a few questions in and realised pretty quick that the options were limiting the outcomes, something like "What do you think would be your preferred method for travelling to Reading - A. Bus, B. Bike C. Walk?

Nowhere was the option for "I'd like to take the car and park as I do now, thankyou very much".

Anyway, things move on, the current popular option these days is "I just won't bother at all, thankyou, the lack of reason to go into, and the general state of the town centre means I'd rather poke myself repeatedly in the eyes with a needle".

PurpleTurtle

7,479 posts

150 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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I only ever really pass by Oxford on the A34 on the way home to Reading.

If I go into the city centre I always get the train and cycle on my foldie bike, simply because I just go from thestation to Cowley Rd to the O2 Academy. It is quicker to cycle. I only ever go in after 7pm though, so this won't make any difference to me personally.

I can see (some of) the logic in introducing these but imagine it is a total ball ache if you need to drive through the city centre regularly, in the filer window (7am to 7pm for most of them)

The one I cannot understand is Marston Ferry Rd. That is well out of the city centre and looks (from Google Maps) to be a fast flowing rural B road. Why would they want to stop car traffic using that?


Solocle

3,585 posts

90 months

Thursday 13th October 2022
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PurpleTurtle said:
I only ever really pass by Oxford on the A34 on the way home to Reading.

If I go into the city centre I always get the train and cycle on my foldie bike, simply because I just go from thestation to Cowley Rd to the O2 Academy. It is quicker to cycle. I only ever go in after 7pm though, so this won't make any difference to me personally.

I can see (some of) the logic in introducing these but imagine it is a total ball ache if you need to drive through the city centre regularly, in the filer window (7am to 7pm for most of them)

The one I cannot understand is Marston Ferry Rd. That is well out of the city centre and looks (from Google Maps) to be a fast flowing rural B road. Why would they want to stop car traffic using that?
Yep, that one did strike me as odd - it's forcing use of the Ring Road, rather than the "inner ring road" of Marston Ferry/Windmill Road.

Marston Ferry also has uniquely good cycle infrastructure, although there have been a couple of times when I was studying there that some kids across the underpass entrance at Cherwell School North meant that I carried on on Marston Ferry Road. The quality of the separation means after that point it's quite difficult to get onto the cycle path!