Police shoot man dead in Police stn yard in Derbyshire

Police shoot man dead in Police stn yard in Derbyshire

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Earthdweller

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14,228 posts

132 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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This seems to have gone under the radar and certainly seems an odd occurrence for police to shoot someone in a secure Police Stn yard

https://news.sky.com/story/man-armed-with-knife-sh...


Derbyshire Constabulary said in a statement: "At 9.55am today (7 October) officers reported seeing a man armed with a knife in the secure car park of Ascot Drive Police Station, off Ascot Drive in Derby.

"Armed officers were sent to the scene, and at 10.03am a police firearm was discharged.

"The man, whose identity is unknown, sustained a gunshot injury and East Midlands Ambulance Service were requested to attend."

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has been informed of the shooting.

cossy400

3,252 posts

190 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Seen this earlier, sadly this is the way forward, no sympathy he was out to cause harm.



Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Scant details right now.

Certainly very odd. My immediate suspicions are 'suicide by cop' or he was targetting a specific police worker.

Earthdweller

Original Poster:

14,228 posts

132 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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More details seem to be coming out now

Seemingly the deceased was armed with a samurai sword and tasers were used on him prior to him being shot, although they proved ineffective

The police do themselves no favours at times why didn’t they just say this at the time?

mac96

4,301 posts

149 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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I suppose a small delay is better than saying something which proves to be untrue two days later. It is strange that he has not been identified, very sad that somewhere he has friends/relatives who do not even know he is dead.

voyds9

8,489 posts

289 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Three people stabbing in a street robbery

One person at a police station with a knife

Which of these two events will the police remember and trot out at every opportunity.




Now don't get me wrong I have sympathy for the officers especially the ones who pulled the trigger but this will be used to further agendas
The current terror threat level is substantial (the lowest it's been since its introduction)

Greendubber

13,699 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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What agenda would that be?

voyds9

8,489 posts

289 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details

Greendubber

13,699 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details
What the hell has any of that got to do with a bloke armed with a sword?

Ian Geary

4,701 posts

198 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Greendubber said:
voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details
What the hell has any of that got to do with a bloke armed with a sword?
Nothing

Perhaps voyds has wandered into the wrong thread?

Unusual for someone to get into the police yard so armed? but based on casual observation (our office overlooks a police station) they're not super high security.

If tasers didn't work, and the suspect was a real threat to people (hard to conceive otherwise) then this sadly seemed the correct outcome.

voyds9

8,489 posts

289 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Greendubber said:
voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details
What the hell has any of that got to do with a bloke armed with a sword?
You're the one replying
If you didn't think it was relevant please feel free to ignore

tangerine_sedge

5,061 posts

224 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details
What the hell has any of that got to do with a bloke armed with a sword?
You're the one replying
If you didn't think it was relevant please feel free to ignore
Why don't you help us out? At the moment you're posting stuff which doesn't seem to make much sense.

It's fine for Batman to be "enigmatic", but it just comes across as daft on a car forum. Unless of course you're Batman?

Don Roque

18,062 posts

165 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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voyds9 said:
You're the one replying
If you didn't think it was relevant please feel free to ignore
Day drinking again? laugh

dudleybloke

20,384 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Another tragic waste of a promising young samurai.

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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I'm still interested in the 'why?'.

If he was looking to hurt random people, a police station is the last place you'd go.

Did he have a grudge against the police?

Was he looking to target a specific worker in the Police building?

Was he just hoping to get shot?


Greendubber

13,699 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
voyds9 said:
Greendubber said:
What agenda would that be?
Whatever the current thing is.

But often just to get you in the system, provide your name and date of birth, address so we can check you through the system.



Recently 3 arrested for showing a Russian flag, as it upset those with a Ukrainian flag
Arrested to ascertain details
What the hell has any of that got to do with a bloke armed with a sword?
You're the one replying
If you didn't think it was relevant please feel free to ignore
As expected, nothing. Thought that would be the case.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Sunday 9th October 2022
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Earthdweller said:
This seems to have gone under the radar and certainly seems an odd occurrence for police to shoot someone in a secure Police Stn yard

https://news.sky.com/story/man-armed-with-knife-sh...


Derbyshire Constabulary said in a statement: "At 9.55am today (7 October) officers reported seeing a man armed with a knife in the secure car park of Ascot Drive Police Station, off Ascot Drive in Derby.

"Armed officers were sent to the scene, and at 10.03am a police firearm was discharged.

"The man, whose identity is unknown, sustained a gunshot injury and East Midlands Ambulance Service were requested to attend."

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has been informed of the shooting.
I love the way the statement uses elaborate phraseology to avoid actually saying "the police shot him". Can they not just use plain English?

cossy400

3,252 posts

190 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11297057/...


Well they ve named him now, he was none of what they originally thought.

I guess we ll never know why, unless his family come forward with something.

faa77

1,728 posts

77 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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Why do they not just shoot them in the foot/lower leg?

Not a complaint, just wondering.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

182 months

Monday 10th October 2022
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faa77 said:
Why do they not just shoot them in the foot/lower leg?

Not a complaint, just wondering.
Why not a complaint?