Clocks changing
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Day light saving time does exactly what it says. When everyone is panicking about saving on energy bills surely using natural light as much as possible rather than electric light has to be an absolute.
Shortly we will all stay in bed for another hour whilst there is daylight but stay up and about trying to do things that require artificial lighting.
Come on government do something clever.
Shortly we will all stay in bed for another hour whilst there is daylight but stay up and about trying to do things that require artificial lighting.
Come on government do something clever.
Ah yes, the timely arrival of the annual DST thread.
Personally I would scrap it, and from what I read most people favour this approach. I also understand that sticking to BST is the preferred option.
The EU voted overwhelmingly to scrap DST as well, in 2019, but they are struggling with getting all countries agreeing on whether to all stick to summertime or wintertime.
Personally I would scrap it, and from what I read most people favour this approach. I also understand that sticking to BST is the preferred option.
The EU voted overwhelmingly to scrap DST as well, in 2019, but they are struggling with getting all countries agreeing on whether to all stick to summertime or wintertime.
What happened to the results of the enquiry?
https://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/media-cen...
They always go on about how it will negatively impact farmers but they comprise less than 2% of the workforce and at summertime you see them working well into the night harvesting under LED flood lights so the argument doesn't stack up.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/media-cen...
They always go on about how it will negatively impact farmers but they comprise less than 2% of the workforce and at summertime you see them working well into the night harvesting under LED flood lights so the argument doesn't stack up.
"From 1940 to 1947, the United Kingdom was not on its usual Greenwich Mean Time (UTC+0) at any point in the year. When British Summer Time ended in 1940, the clocks weren’t put back an hour, so the country remained on UTC+1 until the following spring, when…the clocks were still put ahead an hour, to UTC+2."
Lord Marylebone said:
Ah yes, the timely arrival of the annual DST thread.
Personally I would scrap it, and from what I read most people favour this approach. I also understand that sticking to BST is the preferred option.
The EU voted overwhelmingly to scrap DST as well, in 2019, but they are struggling with getting all countries agreeing on whether to all stick to summertime or wintertime.
The EU is too large to unilaterally make a decision like that. For the UK we benefit from DST, somewhere on the latitudes of Portugal will see little benefit. Personally I would scrap it, and from what I read most people favour this approach. I also understand that sticking to BST is the preferred option.
The EU voted overwhelmingly to scrap DST as well, in 2019, but they are struggling with getting all countries agreeing on whether to all stick to summertime or wintertime.
The issue with the UK is that on our latitude you see huge differences between summer and winter in the hours of daylight. If we stick with summer time it'll be dark at 9 and still dark at 5 in mid winter. With winter time it'll be light at 3 am in mid summer. Hence we have and benefit from DST
Changing clocks isn't really an issue these days as few clocks require manual intervention and if that's too hard just accept that said clock will be wrong for six months. Although if either of those solutions are too difficult or onerous I suspect shoelaces are also troublesome for those people.
Is it too difficult for people to just change when they do things, or are the people wanting to shift from the timezone we're right in the middle of too stupid to do anything without a clock telling them when to do it?
Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
captain_cynic said:
Changing clocks isn't really an issue these days as few clocks require manual intervention and if that's too hard just accept that said clock will be wrong for six months. Although if either of those solutions are too difficult or onerous I suspect shoelaces are also troublesome for those people.
Usually it takes me so long to work out how to change the clock in the car that by the time I've done it I've lost the hour that I should have gained from putting it back.untakenname said:
They always go on about how it will negatively impact farmers but they comprise less than 2% of the workforce and at summertime you see them working well into the night harvesting under LED flood lights so the argument doesn't stack up.
It doesn't effect farmers, plants and animals don't have clocks or watches. I doubt many farmers do either! It should be dropped and left at Summertime, there is absolutely no reason for it these days, if there ever was anyhow.
pquinn said:
Is it too difficult for people to just change when they do things, or are the people wanting to shift from the timezone we're right in the middle of too stupid to do anything without a clock telling them when to do it?
Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
This.Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
Also, it should be fixed at GMT. It is how things are defined... the Meridian at Greenwich.
Just have summer and winter work hours for those who need it.
Schools could be 09:00-15:30GMT in the summer, and 08:00-14:30GMT in the winter if there is an argument for light.
It is what humans do with DST... it is just the number on the clock that is moved.
No ideas for a name said:
pquinn said:
Is it too difficult for people to just change when they do things, or are the people wanting to shift from the timezone we're right in the middle of too stupid to do anything without a clock telling them when to do it?
Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
This.Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
Also, it should be fixed at GMT. It is how things are defined... the Meridian at Grenwich.
Just have summer and winter work hors for those who need it.
Schools could be 09:00-15:30GMT in the summer, and 08:00-14:30GMT in the winter if there is an argument for light.
It is what humans do with DST... it is just the number on the clock that is moved.
pghstochaj said:
Why in the world would you complicate things by asking businesses and schools to adjust working hours rather than just adjusting the time, that makes no sense. It also would not be consistent. I am not sure some people live in the real world sometimes.
All the equipment/servers etc. that I work on is all timed from UTC (same as GMT)... Backups etc. all run at the same times throughout the year... makes no difference. I as a human, just have to do some things ealier/later (according to the clock) at different times of the year.Our local tip has summer and winter opening hours too - that is even after observing DST.
Edited by No ideas for a name on Friday 23 September 10:58
No ideas for a name said:
pquinn said:
Is it too difficult for people to just change when they do things, or are the people wanting to shift from the timezone we're right in the middle of too stupid to do anything without a clock telling them when to do it?
Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
This.Leave the clock alone and do things when the actual daylight lines up. If that means you do something at 8am or 9am or whenever, you don't need to rearrange the world to do it. Just do it!
Also, it should be fixed at GMT. It is how things are defined... the Meridian at Greenwich.
Just have summer and winter work hours for those who need it.
Schools could be 09:00-15:30GMT in the summer, and 08:00-14:30GMT in the winter if there is an argument for light.
It is what humans do with DST... it is just the number on the clock that is moved.
I would support BST all year around for me in Southern England, but perhaps not all year around if I lived in N.Scotland.
As a minimum the start of BST should move to the end of Feb//beginning of March to make it equally timed to the October date.
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