“King Charles” fires his servants by letter (Clive Alderton)

“King Charles” fires his servants by letter (Clive Alderton)

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rallycross

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13,219 posts

243 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Just out in the news this evening, 110 of his loyal staff from Clarence House received a letter on Monday telling them they are now at risk of being made redundant.

Charlie boy off to a new and better place ( still free accommodation) so won’t be needing his current servants.

What a nice slap in the face from their boss!

Widely reported this eve.

PCS general secretary Mark Serwotka said: “The decision of Clarence House to announce redundancies during a period of mourning is nothing short of heartless.

“The self-same staff have been working tirelessly over this period in supporting the activities of the new King and ensuring continuity across the estates of the Prince of Wales.

“While some changes across the households were to be expected, as roles across the royal family change, the scale and speed at which this has been announced is callous in the extreme.

“Least of all because we do not know what staffing the incoming Prince of Wales and his family might need.




Ridgemont

7,024 posts

137 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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rallycross said:
Just out in the news this evening, 110 of his loyal staff from Clarence House received a letter on Monday telling them they are now at risk of being made redundant.

Charlie boy off to a new and better place ( still free accommodation) so won’t be needing his current servants.

What a nice slap in the face from their boss!

Widely reported this eve.

PCS general secretary Mark Serwotka said: “The decision of Clarence House to announce redundancies during a period of mourning is nothing short of heartless.

“The self-same staff have been working tirelessly over this period in supporting the activities of the new King and ensuring continuity across the estates of the Prince of Wales.

“While some changes across the households were to be expected, as roles across the royal family change, the scale and speed at which this has been announced is callous in the extreme.

“Least of all because we do not know what staffing the incoming Prince of Wales and his family might need.
The final line is the intriguing one.
Charles is now supported by the royal household.
William as Prince of Wales may or may not require the Clarence House staff. My understanding reading a different article is that the announcement was rushed because of fears that there may be tribunals etc if the announcement was delayed, and I would very much doubt given everything that is going on that William has given much thought to his future support set up. I very much doubt 110 people will be jobless come next Monday.

Indeed:

article said:
A palace source insisted that “every effort” had been made to delay such moves until after the Queen’s funeral.

But they said that legal advice taken by the household meant the information had to be shared at the earliest opportunity.

Any staff made redundant are expected to receive “enhanced” redundancy payments. No staff will be affected for at least three months.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/1...

glazbagun

14,434 posts

203 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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How is this different to any other job when the work dries up? At least in this case it's generally predictable.


biggles330d

1,618 posts

156 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I'm supportive of the Monarchy and hope we retain them there are lots of voices out there asking for a more streamlined, smaller Royal family that costs less. It's pretty obvious that there's a whole economy that hangs off the back of having a Monarchy, looking after the family, their activities and the properties etc, so slimming it all down would mean a lot of people no longer being required and being made redundant.

It's unfortunate for the folk involved and has no reflection on their past service and dedication, but if their reason for employment is no longer there then what's so odd about giving them notice of redundancy?


AndyAudi

3,208 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Probably might’ve been better to wait a week or so, but how many folks would be critical if there remained a duplicate staff as being wasteful.

Likely I would imagine there’d maybe be a lot of the queens staff go & be replaced by incoming Kings people, but obv some HR bod will need to keep everything “right”

williamp

19,498 posts

279 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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...and if he slims down the monarchy there will be more redundancies. A smaller burdon on the state. A good thing, no??

And in writing? This is the correct HR process. We are not Americans.

9.3

1,146 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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110?? That’s a lot of housekeepers and flunkeys in one house. And I’m a Royalist.

bucksmanuk

2,322 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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110 at risk of being made redundant, and its unlikely that’s all of them, which begs the obvious question…
Just how many are there?
As the poster above, I’m in favour keeping the monarchy, but that’s a LOT.

ClaphamGT3

11,491 posts

249 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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It is inevitable that there will be some staffing changes as the King steps into his role and the PoW steps into his.

At the end of the day, there is one less principal to support and that is before the opportunity is taken for any re-organisation or 'slimming down' of the King's household and that of the Prince and Princess of Wales.

The timing however is extremely clumsy and should really have waited at least until next Tiesday and, ideally, until court mourning ends.

Jenny Tailor

1,727 posts

43 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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ATEOTD - it will be the legal and HR bods as the decision makers to the timings.

HRH wouldn't have even had a say.

Boringvolvodriver

9,932 posts

49 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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ClaphamGT3 said:
It is inevitable that there will be some staffing changes as the King steps into his role and the PoW steps into his.

At the end of the day, there is one less principal to support and that is before the opportunity is taken for any re-organisation or 'slimming down' of the King's household and that of the Prince and Princess of Wales.

The timing however is extremely clumsy and should really have waited at least until next Tiesday and, ideally, until court mourning ends.
Indeed - especially since any discussion in respect of changing the monarchy by the public is frowned upon right now.

Freakuk

3,389 posts

157 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I don't think it's about the risk of redundancy because circumstances have changed, it's about the timing isn't it?

I'd imagine there are a number of similar/same job titles for the 110 at risk, and I think legally you have to put everyone at risk rather than say Jim isn't good enough. And, I guess depending on who (Prince William I assume) takes over he may retain them all, or lose some and bring some of his own staff etc.

satfinal

2,622 posts

168 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Doesn't he have any respect?? NOT the time, and NOT the place!!

Sound familiar?

surveyor

18,082 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I really don't think 'King Charles' would even have had this on his radar - he probably does now though!

This is a manager thinking proactively rather than seeing the wider picture.

bitchstewie

54,595 posts

216 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Freakuk said:
I don't think it's about the risk of redundancy because circumstances have changed, it's about the timing isn't it?
Quite.

Perhaps there are unavoidable legal reasons for it being done at the time it was done but when you've got places cancelling things left right and centre out of "respect" it seems extraordinarily distasteful timing.

Halmyre

11,468 posts

145 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I assume the toothpaste squeezer and the puller-on of the underpants will be safe?

JagLover

43,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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Ridgemont said:
The final line is the intriguing one.
Charles is now supported by the royal household.
William as Prince of Wales may or may not require the Clarence House staff. My understanding reading a different article is that the announcement was rushed because of fears that there may be tribunals etc if the announcement was delayed, and I would very much doubt given everything that is going on that William has given much thought to his future support set up. I very much doubt 110 people will be jobless come next Monday.
My main criticism of this would be the timing and if it is legally required at that point then fair enough. If the staff are offered opportunities elsewhere or an enhanced redundancy package then also fair enough. They can hardly keep paying over a hundred people who are no longer needed.

K50 DEL

9,333 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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What the hand-wringers fail to mention is that they took legal advice to see if they could delay the announcement until after the funeral but were told no, the employees must be told straight away.
The exact same thing happened when the Queen Mother died so those in post would have known for years what would happen.

Another bash-the-Royals non-story. Yawn

JagLover

43,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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9.3 said:
110?? That’s a lot of housekeepers and flunkeys in one house. And I’m a Royalist.
It also includes the Finance and Communications teams. Charles has a lot of business interests, the Duchy of Cornwall has income of over £20m on its own.

Adrian W

14,329 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th September 2022
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I wonder if the official arse wiper will go,

Seriously what would they expect, they must have seen it coming, like most jobs when the work dries up.