You heard it here first-fracking is back!
Discussion
tescorank said:
tomz
Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the issue, if on-land fracking does restart they're going to need a shedload of fracking fluid, then I for one wouldn't have the slightest problem if the pulped and then liquified remains of anyone genuinely using the term "tomz" in any form of written or verbal communication whatsoever were added to the mix of stuff pumped at high pressure down a hole in the ground, hopefully never to be seen again.Edited by eharding on Thursday 8th September 00:40
bloomen said:
I'm nowhere near a site and have never lived in anywhere with a gas connection so couldn't care less myself, but it's a bit more than inconvenience. It's earthquakes, ground water contamination, uncontrolled methane relases and stuff.
I fully expect it to never happen.
I fully expect it to never happen.
Oh no the whole of Poole harbour is ruined...along with Sandbanks and Arne nature reserve... Oh wait...
Escy said:
Stop me if I'm wrong, won't the government give out the contracts to private company's who'll then sell it to the highest bidder on the international market? The British public will see no gain from it?
This. And you forgot the part where the private companies will be asking for a government handout when fracking becomes unprofitable.
bongtom said:
It's all huff n puff.
Even if they start today it'll take 5 years to even produce enough gas to supply 5% of the UK needs. That's the best case scenario.
If private investment pays what’s the downside ??,Even if they start today it'll take 5 years to even produce enough gas to supply 5% of the UK needs. That's the best case scenario.
Anyway I think you will find the people involved are ever so slightly more optimistic ..
bongtom said:
It's all huff n puff.
Even if they start today it'll take 5 years to even produce enough gas to supply 5% of the UK needs. That's the best case scenario.
I think the forecast is that fracking could produce up to around a quarter of the gas we consume. However there is a high degree of uncertainty as we havent started yet and there are wide ranges of estimated extractable reserves.Even if they start today it'll take 5 years to even produce enough gas to supply 5% of the UK needs. That's the best case scenario.
One thing is for sure, watch all those who said "something must be done" say "not this". Because it is "greener" in their mind to pay foreign gas suppliers for their gas, even if it is shipped here in LNG form which more than doubles the CO2 per unit of gas consumed.
Vanden Saab said:
bloomen said:
I'm nowhere near a site and have never lived in anywhere with a gas connection so couldn't care less myself, but it's a bit more than inconvenience. It's earthquakes, ground water contamination, uncontrolled methane relases and stuff.
I fully expect it to never happen.
I fully expect it to never happen.
Oh no the whole of Poole harbour is ruined...along with Sandbanks and Arne nature reserve... Oh wait...
There’s a few big test wells dug and then capped close to me, (North Derbyshire / North Nottinghamshire / South Yorkshire).
This was a big thing in the local area 5-6 years ago, with huge public backlash, based primarily on environmental grounds.
I remember attending a hustings on this subject and stating my opinion that it might be better to provide our own energy security rather than relay on foreign gas from dubious and politically unreliable sources. Oh how they laughed and scorned at my suggestion !
I’m always dubious of the claims made by those who wear sandals and like to scream and screech.
Likewise I’m always dubious of the claims made by big business that “there’s nothing to worry about”.
If it is possible for the PH collective to give a sound, unbiased overview of the risks v rewards, (I know, it’s a big ask), then what are the downsides to fracking besides occasional earth tremors?
The consensus was that around here we’re sat right above some pretty huge reserves.
This was a big thing in the local area 5-6 years ago, with huge public backlash, based primarily on environmental grounds.
I remember attending a hustings on this subject and stating my opinion that it might be better to provide our own energy security rather than relay on foreign gas from dubious and politically unreliable sources. Oh how they laughed and scorned at my suggestion !
I’m always dubious of the claims made by those who wear sandals and like to scream and screech.
Likewise I’m always dubious of the claims made by big business that “there’s nothing to worry about”.
If it is possible for the PH collective to give a sound, unbiased overview of the risks v rewards, (I know, it’s a big ask), then what are the downsides to fracking besides occasional earth tremors?
The consensus was that around here we’re sat right above some pretty huge reserves.
JagLover said:
One thing is for sure, watch all those who said "something must be done" say "not this". Because it is "greener" in their mind to pay foreign gas suppliers for their gas, even if it is shipped here in LNG form which more than doubles the CO2 per unit of gas consumed.
Not to mention some of the sources and the conflict and suffering so caused... Ultimately there is no workable source of energy that is acceptable to "green" think, we just keep kicking the ball further while importing gas from tyrants, nuclear electric from France etc, supposedly appeasing a minority of utopian seeking hard-of-thinkers that *we* don't have gas production or nuclear reactors etc, while the likes of Putin have gotten ever richer and more powerful in supplying the short-sighted policy makers in Britain & the EU.. That's coming home to bite us now, in a multitude of ways.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff