Cressida Dick "Wrongly Ousted"

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eldar

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202 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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Wheel Turned Out

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44 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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The "throw the head honcho out on their ear and make a big noise about investigations and standards improving, while actually doing sod all about it" approach seems to be the de-facto response of many politicians and large corporations to issues within their own parties and organisations. An interesting development to see it cropping up here, certainly, but not really a surprising one.

Fundoreen

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89 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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At least a long dragged out legal case may stop her doing harm in some other job for a while.

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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I wonder if 'lessons will be learnt'

Equus

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107 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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Personally, I'd say that any head of the Metropolitan Police who is capable of being intimidated by a local politician is in the wrong job, anyway.

fk knows what she'd be like when faced with gangsters with guns...

Ziplobb

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290 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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there was me thinking it was the only decent thing the bloke has ever done

surveyor_101

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185 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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she is gay and female the victim card was going to come out at some time!

She was a shower a long time and failed much like she was in charge of counter terrorism and as I understand it she retired to avoid dismal!

When london wanted a woke box ticker and non hetro white male commissioner she was rolled out as female and gay, her past failures overlooked because she ticked the boxes! #Gay


As example of how badly she failed they have continued to go back through wayne cousins allegations and he has just be charged with exposure from 13th Nov 2020, he has been charged with about 5-6 counts going back the last few years, all were covered by the met and surrey police there are around a dozen!


What gets me is Khan seems to be Teflon, even blaming stabbings on the summer heat!


Sir Ian Blair was leagues ahead of her! He was pushed out by boris as mayor, Dick was on borrowed time after covid 19 dancing on the bridge were they panned and show no social distancing own goal! She was all looks no substance.


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Edited by surveyor_101 on Friday 2nd September 14:07

aeropilot

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233 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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Equus said:
Personally, I'd say that any head of the Metropolitan Police who is capable of being intimidated by a local politician is in the wrong job, anyway.
Indeed.

Just proves she was promoted to that position as a tick-boxing exercise (and probably most of the ranks she held below it) rather than on ability as a Police Officer, or ability to lead others.
However, that doesn't excuse Khan's behavior, and failure to follow due process, but then intimidation is his MO by all accounts.


surveyor_101

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aeropilot said:
Indeed.

Just proves she was promoted to that position as a tick-boxing exercise (and probably most of the ranks she held below it) rather than on ability as a Police Officer, or ability to lead others.
However, that doesn't excuse Khan's behavior, and failure to follow due process, but then intimidation is his MO by all accounts.
Exactly, its more fashionable than ever to recruit to tick boxes not get the best candidate, RAF seems to be going down that route.

Shame there isn't someone who can say there is no confidence in Khan and he have to resigned!

TwigtheWonderkid

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156 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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surveyor_101 said:
Shame there isn't someone who can say there is no confidence in Khan and he have to resigned!
There's plenty of people on PH that can say it. In London, not so much. Despite the feeling you may get reading PH, with the people he represents and who voted him in in a democratic election, he remains far more popular than disliked. Something Liz Truss (who, if she becomes PM, has never been voted in by the people) seems to have forgotten when she talks of getting rid of him .

Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Friday 2nd September 16:02

MDMA .

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107 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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surveyor_101 said:
she is gay and female
Which were the only reasons she got the job in the first place. For someone who was in charge of the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting, to then be given the top job, says it all really.
In the private sector, she wouldn’t make it past office junior.

TwigtheWonderkid

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156 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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The gist of the report, written by a long time supporter of Cressida Dick and a Conservative, is that Khan, in telling Cressida Dick that if she didn't resign he would go public with the fact he'd lost confidence in her, was the wrong thing to do. But......he had lost confidence in her. Don't we want our politicians to be honest with the electorate. The report is saying he should have hid the truth of what he thought, from Londoners.

He was right to have lost confidence, if he ever had any. She was a controversial appointment in the first place and she wasn't up to the job. Priti Patel should have sacked her about 2 years before but, the govt didn't want to prove khan right. But he was right.

Khan says the report is biased and not worth the paper it's written on. He's right about that too.

MKnight702

3,186 posts

220 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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As I understand it, the only “wrongly” thing about her ousting was that it took so long.

eldar

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Friday 2nd September 2022
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MDMA . said:
surveyor_101 said:
she is gay and female
Which were the only reasons she got the job in the first place. For someone who was in charge of the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting, to then be given the top job, says it all really.
In the private sector, she wouldn’t make it past office junior.
Or the reason she was fired, if being gay and female is regarded as a special consideration. A lot of the dislike for her appears to focus on that.

Can someone who actually knows, give the reasons why she deserved dismissal?

sociopath

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72 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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eldar said:
MDMA . said:
surveyor_101 said:
she is gay and female
Which were the only reasons she got the job in the first place. For someone who was in charge of the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting, to then be given the top job, says it all really.
In the private sector, she wouldn’t make it past office junior.
Or the reason she was fired, if being gay and female is regarded as a special consideration. A lot of the dislike for her appears to focus on that.

Can someone who actually knows, give the reasons why she deserved dismissal?
She wasn't fired. She resigned because her boss said he was going to say he had no confidence in her.
He was right, she was an incompetent fool. Resigning was the most professional thing she did.


eldar

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sociopath said:
She wasn't fired. She resigned because her boss said he was going to say he had no confidence in her.
He was right, she was an incompetent fool. Resigning was the most professional thing she did.
Because she was a gay woman, so some other reasons? Can you elaborate?

aeropilot

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Friday 2nd September 2022
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eldar said:
Can someone who actually knows, give the reasons why she deserved dismissal?
She was incompetent in the role (as she was at every rank she held above Inspector, and from what I here, even that's being generous)


sociopath

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Friday 2nd September 2022
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eldar said:
sociopath said:
She wasn't fired. She resigned because her boss said he was going to say he had no confidence in her.
He was right, she was an incompetent fool. Resigning was the most professional thing she did.
Because she was a gay woman, so some other reasons? Can you elaborate?
Why would you automatically assume its because she was gay?

Have a look at her history, a dead Braziian, murdered by her officers, women arrested for attending a vigil for a murdered woman, murdered by one of her officers, just to name two.

Being straight, gay, or anything in between is irrelevant, unless you're looking for a reason to say she was discriminated against. I didn't even know she was gay, but she sure as hell was crap.

eldar

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aeropilot said:
She was incompetent in the role (as she was at every rank she held above Inspector, and from what I here, even that's being generous)
So, incompetent based on 'from what I hear'. Opinions appear divided, Ive no idea if she good, bad or indifferent.

The criticism here, at least seems vague and unspecified.


aeropilot

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eldar said:
aeropilot said:
She was incompetent in the role (as she was at every rank she held above Inspector, and from what I here, even that's being generous)
So, incompetent based on 'from what I hear'.
Well, I'm not going to name still serving officers on an open forum, that I've heard it from.