Greenpeace to drop more boulders to protect seabed

Greenpeace to drop more boulders to protect seabed

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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https://news.sky.com/story/greenpeace-plans-boulde...


I grew up with a family commercial fishing business in West Wales.
We hated the trawlers.

Superb news this. Long may they keep doing it.


Astacus

3,476 posts

240 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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I whole heartedly agree. I am not, however, a big fan of GreenPeace. They are too big and too unaccountable and have achieved a level of righteousness that they believe gives them the right to do what they want.

poo at Paul's

14,319 posts

181 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Mr Spoon said:
https://news.sky.com/story/greenpeace-plans-boulde...


I grew up with a family commercial fishing business in West Wales.
We hated the trawlers.

Superb news this. Long may they keep doing it.
Not great for the fish they land on.

FourWheelDrift

89,455 posts

290 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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And how much marine life (inc giant fan mussels) are they squashing dropping all these big boulders?

bloomen

7,235 posts

165 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
And how much marine life (inc giant fan mussels) are they squashing dropping all these big boulders?
All of it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Astacus said:
I whole heartedly agree. I am not, however, a big fan of GreenPeace. They are too big and too unaccountable and have achieved a level of righteousness that they believe gives them the right to do what they want.
You’ll find accounts, org charts, governance etc on their website if you care to look….

anonymous-user

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60 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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bloomen said:
FourWheelDrift said:
And how much marine life (inc giant fan mussels) are they squashing dropping all these big boulders?
All of it.
Look at it this way, should anything be killed when they drop the boulders, it preserves many, many more of the same species.

valiant

11,194 posts

166 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Bottom trawling is very destructive especially when used by these new type super trawlers. They can clean the sea bed completely and often catch stuff that can’t or won’t be put to market and thrown back in the sea.

If you want to preserve fishing and their grounds for future generations then bottom trawling is not the way to go.

grumbledoak

31,770 posts

239 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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I am not generally a fan of Greenpeace, but this sounds like a good idea.

More of this sort of thing, please.

anonymous-user

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60 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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You wouldn't believe the destruction trawlers did 25 years ago let alone what they do now.

The fish will move before the boulder lands. They can of course swim.
Any that don't will be an unfortunate consequence but much better than destruction of entire species.

We need these around the coast on every trawlable area.

There are other ways to catch fish and crab.

eharding

14,101 posts

290 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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pablo said:
bloomen said:
FourWheelDrift said:
And how much marine life (inc giant fan mussels) are they squashing dropping all these big boulders?
All of it.
Look at it this way, should anything be killed when they drop the boulders, it preserves many, many more of the same species.
I think at least one seafloor cable runs through the South West Deeps (East) MPA? - not sure how those react either to bottom trawling or having boulders dropped on them.

Wasn't this also the general area that there was a lot of kerfuffle just before the invasion of Ukraine about possible Russian submarine fcensoredkery afoot and being up to some shenanigans with undersea cables? The chances of a Russian submarine being sunk by a Greenpeace boulder are of course very remote, which is probably a good thing because I would most likely piss myself to death laughing should such a thing actually occur.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

236 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
Mr Spoon said:
https://news.sky.com/story/greenpeace-plans-boulde...


I grew up with a family commercial fishing business in West Wales.
We hated the trawlers.

Superb news this. Long may they keep doing it.
Not great for the fish they land on.
They'll be carefully plaiced.

nellyleelephant

2,708 posts

240 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Smiler. said:
They'll be carefully plaiced.
I hope so, there'll be plenty of flatfish otherwise.

wombleh

1,887 posts

128 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Also not much of a fan but fair play on this one, good move.

Did smile at the MMO asking them not to do it but instead attend a workshop, yea that sounds like it’ll really help!

Astacus

3,476 posts

240 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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pablo said:
Astacus said:
I whole heartedly agree. I am not, however, a big fan of GreenPeace. They are too big and too unaccountable and have achieved a level of righteousness that they believe gives them the right to do what they want.
You’ll find accounts, org charts, governance etc on their website if you care to look….
Very nice, but what has that got to do with the price of fish?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Astacus said:
pablo said:
Astacus said:
I whole heartedly agree. I am not, however, a big fan of GreenPeace. They are too big and too unaccountable and have achieved a level of righteousness that they believe gives them the right to do what they want.
You’ll find accounts, org charts, governance etc on their website if you care to look….
Very nice, but what has that got to do with the price of fish?
Lots probably.

Murph7355

38,738 posts

262 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Really don't know why our govt doesn't ban these super trawlers from our waters.

How many are UK owned versus elsewhere? (I thought the Dutch had the monster ones?).

It seems obvious that they are highly questionable when it comes to sustainability.

magpie215

4,563 posts

195 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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eharding said:
The chances of a Russian submarine being sunk by a Greenpeace boulder
Hunt for the Red Rocktober?

glazbagun

14,434 posts

203 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Murph7355 said:
Really don't know why our govt doesn't ban these super trawlers from our waters.

How many are UK owned versus elsewhere? (I thought the Dutch had the monster ones?).

It seems obvious that they are highly questionable when it comes to sustainability.
They don't care and never have. Even when we were under the Common Fisheries Policy we were shafting our own small boats to the benefit of bigger ones. It's even worse in Scotland.

https://www.marinet.org.uk/who-owns-the-uk-fishing...

Fishing is an important prop for politicians when they need some divisive squirrel, but it's just a pawn to be sacrificed for more valuable deals over something else.

Byker28i

66,491 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Smiler. said:
They'll be carefully plaiced.
magpie215 said:
Hunt for the Red Rocktober?
Oh Bravo both of you biggrin