£450 PCM Utility bills
Discussion
A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan
Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
The more politically difficult this gets the more likely we are to see the UK government ceasing exports to make sure the home market has the energy to meet its needs and to price it accordingly. The government cannot let hundreds, if not thousands of people die because the price of energy is pushed higher by countries that have made poor energy supply decisions. Covid restrictions has shown what can be done and has changed the rules on this.Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan
Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
I guess you either pay it or you go cold this winter. The government could give people more helicopter money for their bills, but surely this is just adding more money to the economy which will no doubt drive inflation higher. A bit of a dichotomy when the only tool they have to reduce inflation, raising interest rates is designed to reduce the money supply.Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
I think a lot of people are in for a massive shock come winter. And don't forget £450 is the average, what about those people who are in 4 bedroom detached houses but on average wages, how much is that going to cost? Or people that only have electric heating in their property, I dread to think how much that is going to cost.
Four Litre said:
Its going to come to a head soon, I predict riots in Oct/ Nov if prices get hiked further.
I don't think there will be riots. People say this all the time; almost never happens.The majority of people will re-prioritise, as difficult as that is. And those worst effected will have priorities other than rioting.
I'm planning to draught proof all my windows and doors and use the foil reflective insulation behind all the radiators
Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets
People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.
It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back
In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff
Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets
People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.
It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back
In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff
£450!
On the crisis thread there are people with bills this much a month but I presume they are in very big houses with pools.
Could this just be another scary headline like people dying with, not of, Covid.
I hope so.
My bills in a big hard to warm open plan 2 bed duplex have been around £60/month which includes the rise in April and some winter CH use but since I have been very miserly.
I take it back, a busy 3 bed with teens will easily hit that when the prices go up again in October.
There's going to be a lot of defaulters and people having their power cut off.
On the crisis thread there are people with bills this much a month but I presume they are in very big houses with pools.
Could this just be another scary headline like people dying with, not of, Covid.
I hope so.
My bills in a big hard to warm open plan 2 bed duplex have been around £60/month which includes the rise in April and some winter CH use but since I have been very miserly.
I take it back, a busy 3 bed with teens will easily hit that when the prices go up again in October.
There's going to be a lot of defaulters and people having their power cut off.
At the start of the year I turned my central heating down to 17 degrees and only had it coming on for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening. Cut my bills right down and we were fairly comfortable with a blanket (I was still sat in my shorts and t-shirt). Be frustrating for bills to go up but we'll be ok. My parents on the other hand who's house is like a sauna will struggle.
Joey Deacon said:
I guess you either pay it or you go cold this winter. The government could give people more helicopter money for their bills, but surely this is just adding more money to the economy which will no doubt drive inflation higher. A bit of a dichotomy when the only tool they have to reduce inflation, raising interest rates is designed to reduce the money supply.
We don't have demand driven inflation, raising interest rates or helicopter money is not going to make a jot of difference either way. Inflation is being driven by the price of a commodity we cannot live without, and our useless goverments of several generations have left us vunerable to this by not securing our energy supplies in the endless quest for lower taxes.Pieman68 said:
I'm planning to draught proof all my windows and doors and use the foil reflective insulation behind all the radiators
Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets
People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.
It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back
In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff
In the “good old days” (tm) people only heated one or two rooms - the rest of the house was much colder. I live in a 4 bedroom “flat fronted” Victorian house. When we let the place occasionally, the bills are insane, people try and run the whole house at 24C. When we are there, we don’t heat the bedrooms (at all), and the main living spaces are at about 17C. This makes the bills trivial, and we are still alive.Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets
People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.
It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back
In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff
iphonedyou said:
Four Litre said:
Its going to come to a head soon, I predict riots in Oct/ Nov if prices get hiked further.
I don't think there will be riots. People say this all the time; almost never happens.The majority of people will re-prioritise, as difficult as that is. And those worst effected will have priorities other than rioting.
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