£450 PCM Utility bills

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A500leroy

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5,476 posts

124 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

114 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Cap utility company profits and pass the money back to the customer.

BabySharkDD

15,078 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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So glad I’m off-grid biggrin

Ashfordian

2,162 posts

95 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
The more politically difficult this gets the more likely we are to see the UK government ceasing exports to make sure the home market has the energy to meet its needs and to price it accordingly. The government cannot let hundreds, if not thousands of people die because the price of energy is pushed higher by countries that have made poor energy supply decisions. Covid restrictions has shown what can be done and has changed the rules on this.

paulrockliffe

15,956 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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ZedLeg said:
Cap utility company profits and pass the money back to the customer.
And then how will you deal with the other £445 a month?

Four Litre

2,104 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
Its going to come to a head soon, I predict riots in Oct/ Nov if prices get hiked further.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
I guess you either pay it or you go cold this winter. The government could give people more helicopter money for their bills, but surely this is just adding more money to the economy which will no doubt drive inflation higher. A bit of a dichotomy when the only tool they have to reduce inflation, raising interest rates is designed to reduce the money supply.

I think a lot of people are in for a massive shock come winter. And don't forget £450 is the average, what about those people who are in 4 bedroom detached houses but on average wages, how much is that going to cost? Or people that only have electric heating in their property, I dread to think how much that is going to cost.


iphonedyou

9,466 posts

163 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Four Litre said:
Its going to come to a head soon, I predict riots in Oct/ Nov if prices get hiked further.
I don't think there will be riots. People say this all the time; almost never happens.

The majority of people will re-prioritise, as difficult as that is. And those worst effected will have priorities other than rioting.

crankedup5

10,693 posts

41 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Windfall taxes on the big producers to be distributed to the most in need.
Remove VAT on energy bills.

Pieman68

4,264 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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I'm planning to draught proof all my windows and doors and use the foil reflective insulation behind all the radiators

Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets

People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.

It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back

In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff

menousername

2,135 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Dont people (mostly elderly or vulnerable but still) still die to this day every winter from cold and cold related problems



croyde

23,714 posts

236 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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£450!

On the crisis thread there are people with bills this much a month but I presume they are in very big houses with pools.

Could this just be another scary headline like people dying with, not of, Covid.

I hope so.

My bills in a big hard to warm open plan 2 bed duplex have been around £60/month which includes the rise in April and some winter CH use but since I have been very miserly.

I take it back, a busy 3 bed with teens will easily hit that when the prices go up again in October.

There's going to be a lot of defaulters and people having their power cut off.

fiatpower

3,161 posts

177 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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At the start of the year I turned my central heating down to 17 degrees and only had it coming on for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening. Cut my bills right down and we were fairly comfortable with a blanket (I was still sat in my shorts and t-shirt). Be frustrating for bills to go up but we'll be ok. My parents on the other hand who's house is like a sauna will struggle.

Cobracc

3,431 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
Woodburner....I'll be burning anything and everything.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Joey Deacon said:
I guess you either pay it or you go cold this winter. The government could give people more helicopter money for their bills, but surely this is just adding more money to the economy which will no doubt drive inflation higher. A bit of a dichotomy when the only tool they have to reduce inflation, raising interest rates is designed to reduce the money supply.
We don't have demand driven inflation, raising interest rates or helicopter money is not going to make a jot of difference either way. Inflation is being driven by the price of a commodity we cannot live without, and our useless goverments of several generations have left us vunerable to this by not securing our energy supplies in the endless quest for lower taxes.

arfur

3,889 posts

220 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
I really hope it is £450 ! That would be a saving for me - currently paying £530 :-)

rxe

6,700 posts

109 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Pieman68 said:
I'm planning to draught proof all my windows and doors and use the foil reflective insulation behind all the radiators

Stick another layer of clothes on and maybe buy extra duvets/blankets

People didn't die in the 60s and before despite no CH and single glazed windows. Maybe a learning process to not be so profligate with fuel (lights turned off, less leaving items on standby/devices charging all night etc.

It's not ideal, it will still be expensive, but a lot of people need to learn how to cut back

In the long term this may also help with consumption and emissions stuff
In the “good old days” (tm) people only heated one or two rooms - the rest of the house was much colder. I live in a 4 bedroom “flat fronted” Victorian house. When we let the place occasionally, the bills are insane, people try and run the whole house at 24C. When we are there, we don’t heat the bedrooms (at all), and the main living spaces are at about 17C. This makes the bills trivial, and we are still alive.

Lotobear

7,007 posts

134 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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iphonedyou said:
Four Litre said:
Its going to come to a head soon, I predict riots in Oct/ Nov if prices get hiked further.
I don't think there will be riots. People say this all the time; almost never happens.

The majority of people will re-prioritise, as difficult as that is. And those worst effected will have priorities other than rioting.
There probably will be riots but not due to energy prices per se but because the media has legitimised it with all their guff about don't pay your bill, it's all the UK Govts fault (no, it's a worldwide issue), grr Tories etc, etc. Left wing agitators will never miss an opportunity for a bit of civil unrest and if they can shoehorn a 'racist' angle in as well then we are good to go

Blue62

9,303 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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A500leroy said:
Thats the news that the good ole BBC are reveling in today, the average Gas and Elec bill will cost £450pcm by Jan

Simply unpayable by the average worker, so what now?
Nationalise them, along with the water companies. See France and EDF for reference.

DanL

6,404 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th August 2022
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Is the average worker paying the average bill, there’s the question…