Pelosi lands in Taiwan
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That'll annoy someone.
I wonder how all the bellicose threats from PRC will pan out.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/02/nanc...
I wonder how all the bellicose threats from PRC will pan out.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/02/nanc...
king arthur said:
If it turns out to change China's stance on Ukraine it really will be one of the stupidest things an American politician has ever done.
From what I’ve observed she’s a rather unpleasant arrogant old crone thats full of s
t so sadly your suggestion might be close to the mark ..Massive self inflicted own goal … all so completely avoidable
Three USN naval battle groups off the island, 8 F15 fighters escorting the VIP flight into Taiwan
Chinese military running live fire exercises and mass incursions into Taiwan airspace because of it
Why ?
Stirring up a hornets nest makes zero sense, particularly at this moment .. moving away from the line of ambiguity makes zero sense
Playing it all out in public makes zero sense but saying that once she said she was going and the US govt started wavering and China threatening .. not going would have been a huge climb down and loss of face
Hey ho
Three USN naval battle groups off the island, 8 F15 fighters escorting the VIP flight into Taiwan
Chinese military running live fire exercises and mass incursions into Taiwan airspace because of it
Why ?
Stirring up a hornets nest makes zero sense, particularly at this moment .. moving away from the line of ambiguity makes zero sense
Playing it all out in public makes zero sense but saying that once she said she was going and the US govt started wavering and China threatening .. not going would have been a huge climb down and loss of face
Hey ho
As an Australian living down under, we've been subjecting to years of Chinese bullying and economic warfare.
I accept the arguments people put forth around the visit being controversial, and I'm no fan of Pelosi, however I do like to see the Chinese being stood up too like this.
Furthermore, it's interesting to see the history of how China allegedly bribed the UN to vote Taiwan back under them and to lose their UN seat, with good rewards issued should said vote happen (google the African delegates dancing in the aisle as the vote went against Taiwan which angered Reagan and Nixon at the time).
There won't be much more than sabre rattling happening for the moment however, the Chinese will attack Taiwan commercially, just like they have with us Australians.
More trumped up restrictions on Taiwanese companies and products no doubt. The massive Chinese Bot Machine attacking every part of Taiwanese social networking and IT attacks ramped up significantly.
I accept the arguments people put forth around the visit being controversial, and I'm no fan of Pelosi, however I do like to see the Chinese being stood up too like this.
Furthermore, it's interesting to see the history of how China allegedly bribed the UN to vote Taiwan back under them and to lose their UN seat, with good rewards issued should said vote happen (google the African delegates dancing in the aisle as the vote went against Taiwan which angered Reagan and Nixon at the time).
There won't be much more than sabre rattling happening for the moment however, the Chinese will attack Taiwan commercially, just like they have with us Australians.
More trumped up restrictions on Taiwanese companies and products no doubt. The massive Chinese Bot Machine attacking every part of Taiwanese social networking and IT attacks ramped up significantly.
Earthdweller said:
Massive self inflicted own goal … all so completely avoidable
Three USN naval battle groups off the island, 8 F15 fighters escorting the VIP flight into Taiwan
Chinese military running live fire exercises and mass incursions into Taiwan airspace because of it
Why ?
Stirring up a hornets nest makes zero sense, particularly at this moment .. moving away from the line of ambiguity makes zero sense
Playing it all out in public makes zero sense but saying that once she said she was going and the US govt started wavering and China threatening .. not going would have been a huge climb down and loss of face
Hey ho
It’s lessons learnt from Russia…if you don’t stand up to bullies, they think they can push it further and then you end up in a worse mess.Three USN naval battle groups off the island, 8 F15 fighters escorting the VIP flight into Taiwan
Chinese military running live fire exercises and mass incursions into Taiwan airspace because of it
Why ?
Stirring up a hornets nest makes zero sense, particularly at this moment .. moving away from the line of ambiguity makes zero sense
Playing it all out in public makes zero sense but saying that once she said she was going and the US govt started wavering and China threatening .. not going would have been a huge climb down and loss of face
Hey ho
I think we will see increasing Chinese isolationism under Xi as their demographic nightmare starts to bite and he tries to hold it all together. Making sure that volatility doesn’t leak out into the wider world will be vital.
loafer123 said:
It’s lessons learnt from Russia…if you don’t stand up to bullies, they think they can push it further and then you end up in a worse mess.
That's exactly it; a shot across the bows to dissuade a further emboldened China from doing to Taiwan what Russia did to Crimea. Viewed through that prism she couldn't not visit.https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-military-drills...
Chinese military drills have invaded Taiwan's territory, says defence ministry, as Nancy Pelosi visit angers Beijing
Chinese military drills have invaded Taiwan's territory, says defence ministry, as Nancy Pelosi visit angers Beijing
https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-military-drills...
Chinese military drills have invaded Taiwan's territory, says defence ministry, as Nancy Pelosi visit angers Beijing
Chinese military drills have invaded Taiwan's territory, says defence ministry, as Nancy Pelosi visit angers Beijing
Electro1980 said:
Appeasement doesn’t work. The only people issuing threats or escalating are the Chinese.
It’s Putin and NATO again and the same people that think we should let dictators control other countries and that nations have some sort of right to a sphere of influence.
Yes aggree , but is Pelosi the right person ? It’s Putin and NATO again and the same people that think we should let dictators control other countries and that nations have some sort of right to a sphere of influence.
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