Alex Belfield trial
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I've only just become aware of this case when I happened upon it by accident a few days ago - is anyone following it?
It's an interesting one for sure, either Belfield is a devious and malicious tow rag or else he's on the receiving end of an orchestrated campaign to close him down by various media types with hurt feelings.
....has anyone else noticed or been following the case and how do you think it will turn out?
It's an interesting one for sure, either Belfield is a devious and malicious tow rag or else he's on the receiving end of an orchestrated campaign to close him down by various media types with hurt feelings.
....has anyone else noticed or been following the case and how do you think it will turn out?
Been watching Alex via his YouTube channel for a number of years. I have no dog in the fight, other than having a passing interest in his output.
It will be interesting to see how it all works out - the Beeb are alleging that he sent over 6,000 emails to various presenters and staff, which they allege constitutes stalking, but in the evidence to date have only produced a couple of dozen actual emails? The police it seems have been at best incompetent, at worst wilfully malicious in their actions to date.
I'm not a legal beagle of course. I really don't like some of the people involved - Jeremy Vine for example is an odious man - but I hope justice is served whatever the outcome.
It will be interesting to see how it all works out - the Beeb are alleging that he sent over 6,000 emails to various presenters and staff, which they allege constitutes stalking, but in the evidence to date have only produced a couple of dozen actual emails? The police it seems have been at best incompetent, at worst wilfully malicious in their actions to date.
I'm not a legal beagle of course. I really don't like some of the people involved - Jeremy Vine for example is an odious man - but I hope justice is served whatever the outcome.
Al Gorithum said:
Don't know anything about it/him, but the 1st results on Google (without clicking the links) go on about "witch hunt" and donate to his cause, so I make the assumption that he's been watching Trump.
TDS dragged into a completely unrelated thread. Have you considered seeking help?Roderick Spode said:
Been watching Alex via his YouTube channel for a number of years. I have no dog in the fight, other than having a passing interest in his output.
It will be interesting to see how it all works out - the Beeb are alleging that he sent over 6,000 emails to various presenters and staff, which they allege constitutes stalking, but in the evidence to date have only produced a couple of dozen actual emails? The police it seems have been at best incompetent, at worst wilfully malicious in their actions to date.
I'm not a legal beagle of course. I really don't like some of the people involved - Jeremy Vine for example is an odious man - but I hope justice is served whatever the outcome.
Your post sums it up for me, the police have way overstepped the mark IMHO, particularly when they broke into his house whilst having removed their badges and numbers. Like you, I cannot stand J Vine, it seems that in this case he suffers from frequent memory loss as do some of the other witnesses, something which shoulldn't make for a strong prosecution case. It will be interesting to see how it all works out - the Beeb are alleging that he sent over 6,000 emails to various presenters and staff, which they allege constitutes stalking, but in the evidence to date have only produced a couple of dozen actual emails? The police it seems have been at best incompetent, at worst wilfully malicious in their actions to date.
I'm not a legal beagle of course. I really don't like some of the people involved - Jeremy Vine for example is an odious man - but I hope justice is served whatever the outcome.
Roderick Spode said:
Been watching Alex via his YouTube channel for a number of years. I have no dog in the fight, other than having a passing interest in his output.
Much the same as me.I have no idea what sort of guy he is when the camera isn't on him, but he's struck me as someone who just says things like he sees it, which is no bad thing as far as I'm concerned. Honesty is a rarefied commodity nowadays! He can sometimes go too far IMO when taking the piss out of people he doesn't agree with or like, but that certainly doesn't make him the things he's being accused of.
If, as I suspect may be the case, the people accusing him/BBC are simply thin skinned, dramatic, vindictive luvvies, I hope he's exonerated. If only half the stuff he's had to endure with the Notts police is true, I hope he also gets an enormous payout.
At least he's had the opportunity to get everything out in the court infront of a judge - I'll follow it with interest to see what the verdict is, because if his side of the story is true, then he's had to endure the most horrendous treatment, both by his former employer and the police.
I blow hot and cold with him. I think he is a good journalist in that he talks about the real issues and highlights stuff that MSM does not. He sometimes goes too far and can easily offend certain types (I am not one of them)
He clearly has been shafted by the BBC and has been able to demonstrate that his treatment is as a direct result of their other ‘agendas’
The case is interesting to me as I studied law for A Level and my Bankers Exams and I find it fascinating that he is representing himself in a Crown Court. Its also significant that the Judge has allowed him to do a court report, everyday, of the trial. It was argued early on that he was not a journalist ! Nottingham Police are clearly complicit in what was going on and the sheer number of mistakes in procedure is shocking particularly relating to certain staff who clearly are way out of their depth and did not know when to draw a line during the investigation.
His cross examination of Jeremy Vine and other senior members of the BBC was very enlightening. Vine on the stand saying several times ‘ I cant remember or I dont know ‘ Really?
Its a significant case.
He clearly has been shafted by the BBC and has been able to demonstrate that his treatment is as a direct result of their other ‘agendas’
The case is interesting to me as I studied law for A Level and my Bankers Exams and I find it fascinating that he is representing himself in a Crown Court. Its also significant that the Judge has allowed him to do a court report, everyday, of the trial. It was argued early on that he was not a journalist ! Nottingham Police are clearly complicit in what was going on and the sheer number of mistakes in procedure is shocking particularly relating to certain staff who clearly are way out of their depth and did not know when to draw a line during the investigation.
His cross examination of Jeremy Vine and other senior members of the BBC was very enlightening. Vine on the stand saying several times ‘ I cant remember or I dont know ‘ Really?
Its a significant case.
Ziplobb said:
His cross examination of Jeremy Vine and other senior members of the BBC was very enlightening. Vine on the stand saying several times ‘ I cant remember or I dont know ‘ Really?
I was struck by that as well. A number of his accusers have had very poor memories.If AB's actions had the affect that they say they did, I'd expect their memories to be razor sharp.
I was also pretty disgusted to hear that Jeremy Vine said he felt the need to tell his young daughter that she should be careful out on the street because someone might throw acid in her face (or words to that effect) - what sort of dad does that FFS?
I'm not not sure what to make of him to be honest, we only see his side of any argument. He comes across as far left wing when he speaks out against 'the system' but he then contradicts my opinion when he speaks his mind about all the immigrants coming over etc. He also seems to stoke his viewers with click bait opinions and riles them up, many who comment on his channel in support seem far right wing and others appear anti police/establishment. So I struggle to work out what his stance is.
He ranted for months about Notts police breaking into his house without a search warrant, but it actually seems more like they were there to arrest him, and seeing as he didn't go down to let them in then they had to force their way in which is legal.
He's been ramping up his Youtube subscriber numbers over the last year, and I think he has his own subscription website, obviously trying to boost his income to fund his court defence.
Hard to know if he is a victim of the Beeps oppression, or if he has his own twisted agenda.
He ranted for months about Notts police breaking into his house without a search warrant, but it actually seems more like they were there to arrest him, and seeing as he didn't go down to let them in then they had to force their way in which is legal.
He's been ramping up his Youtube subscriber numbers over the last year, and I think he has his own subscription website, obviously trying to boost his income to fund his court defence.
Hard to know if he is a victim of the Beeps oppression, or if he has his own twisted agenda.
dangerousB said:
Ziplobb said:
His cross examination of Jeremy Vine and other senior members of the BBC was very enlightening. Vine on the stand saying several times ‘ I cant remember or I dont know ‘ Really?
I was struck by that as well. A number of his accusers have had very poor memories.If AB's actions had the affect that they say they did, I'd expect their memories to be razor sharp.
I was also pretty disgusted to hear that Jeremy Vine said he felt the need to tell his young daughter that she should be careful out on the street because someone might throw acid in her face (or words to that effect) - what sort of dad does that FFS?
All very odd isn’t it ?
Can’t make up my mind whether he is a swivel eyed loon or someone seriously wronged
From the (very little) I’ve seen I’m leaning towards the latter, caveat being that he might be a loon regardless
Be interesting to see how it unfolds .. Defending yourself in the Crown court is extremely rare and I’ve never known a running commentary of events on YouTube by a defendant during an ongoing trial .. surely that could influence jurors ?
Very very strange indeed
Can’t make up my mind whether he is a swivel eyed loon or someone seriously wronged
From the (very little) I’ve seen I’m leaning towards the latter, caveat being that he might be a loon regardless
Be interesting to see how it unfolds .. Defending yourself in the Crown court is extremely rare and I’ve never known a running commentary of events on YouTube by a defendant during an ongoing trial .. surely that could influence jurors ?
Very very strange indeed
Earthdweller said:
All very odd isn’t it ?
Can’t make up my mind whether he is a swivel eyed loon or someone seriously wronged
From the (very little) I’ve seen I’m leaning towards the latter, caveat being that he might be a loon regardless
Be interesting to see how it unfolds .. Defending yourself in the Crown court is extremely rare and I’ve never known a running commentary of events on YouTube by a defendant during an ongoing trial .. surely that could influence jurors ?
Very very strange indeed
The judge accepted that he is a professional reporter hence allowed the running commentary. From what I've seen (or heard in his reports) he managed his own cross examination of the witnesses extremely wellCan’t make up my mind whether he is a swivel eyed loon or someone seriously wronged
From the (very little) I’ve seen I’m leaning towards the latter, caveat being that he might be a loon regardless
Be interesting to see how it unfolds .. Defending yourself in the Crown court is extremely rare and I’ve never known a running commentary of events on YouTube by a defendant during an ongoing trial .. surely that could influence jurors ?
Very very strange indeed
Earthdweller said:
Be interesting to see how it unfolds .. Defending yourself in the Crown court is extremely rare and I’ve never known a running commentary of events on YouTube by a defendant during an ongoing trial .. surely that could influence jurors ?
I had a quick search on Google News and there's a few recent cased mentioning it, including this one for attempted murder and arson!https://www.itv.com/news/central/2022-07-21/plasti...
I assume in that and this case, the defendants are clearly capable of fully understanding the risks of what they are doing.
Lotobear said:
robscot said:
Go watch him live!
"Alex Belfield and Katie Hopkins together live on stage"
Nice attempt at a diversion however this thread is about his court case with the BBC and Notts Police, not his road show with Hopkins."Alex Belfield and Katie Hopkins together live on stage"
She is a Troll, and he is on trial for the same, so not great symmetry.
andyeds1234 said:
Lotobear said:
robscot said:
Go watch him live!
"Alex Belfield and Katie Hopkins together live on stage"
Nice attempt at a diversion however this thread is about his court case with the BBC and Notts Police, not his road show with Hopkins."Alex Belfield and Katie Hopkins together live on stage"
She is a Troll, and he is on trial for the same, so not great symmetry.
Please try using adult arguments next time.
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