Rishi and Boris Fined

[Armchair Expert]

Over breaking lock down rules

O dear

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/partygate-boris-johnson-...

[originals]

Quite right too.

Starmer makes me laugh though.

[croyde]

I think the fines are pointless.

Question needs to be asked why they terrified a populace and ruined people's lives and jobs over a virus that those in charge obviously dismissed as harmless.

Or at least not dangerous enough to warrant keeping their distances, making sure the absolute minimum of people to be in a room together and to not meet people outside their 'bubble'.

God I despise that word.

[ATG]

croyde said:

I think the fines are pointless.

Question needs to be asked why they terrified a populace and ruined people's lives and jobs over a virus that those in charge obviously dismissed as harmless.

Or at least not dangerous enough keeping their distances, making sure the minimum of people to be in a room together and to not meet people outside their 'bubble'.

God I despise that word.

Their failure to comply with the rules they imposed on the rest of the country does not tell us anything about the necessity of those rules. People flout all kinds of rules that are sensible. If BoJo got done for drink driving, we wouldn't say, "that proves drink driving legislation is unnecessary." No, we'd say "BoJo is a monumental pillock", and we'd be right, because he is.

Anyway, back to the thread.

So, is he going to resign? Are the rest of his st monkey party finally going to claw back a tiny scrap of integrity by canning the great divot?

Or is he going to cling on and take a massive shoeing at the May elections before they finally can him? Can the Tories grasp defeat from the jaws of defeat? Just how st have their political instincts become? I cannot wait to see. This is going to be hilarious.

[Tommo87]

Good,

Now let’s go back in time and fine some others ex and current MPs

Bribes, war crimes, fraud, passports for cash, there’s plenty to go around in ALL parties.

[Byker28i]

Johnson was at six of the 12 events being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and his missus was also fined.

Hang on, this was the man that said there was no parties, then that there were parties but he didn't attend, then he did attend but didn't know they were parties because his staff didn't tell him they were...

1 December 2021: "All guidance was followed completely in Number 10"
7 December 2021: "All guidelines were observed"
8 December 2021: "There was no party and no COVID rules were broken"

Now he's been to many parties, 50 fines handed out for the parties,


It's the lying, not the parties...

[biggbn]

Byker28i said:

Johnson was at six of the 12 events being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and his missus was also fined.

Hang on, this was the man that said there was no parties, then that there were parties but he didn't attend, then he did attend but didn't know they were parties because his staff didn't tell him they were...

1 December 2021: "All guidance was followed completely in Number 10"
7 December 2021: "All guidelines were observed"
8 December 2021: "There was no party and no COVID rules were broken"

Now he's been to many parties, 50 fines handed out for the parties,


It's the lying, not the parties...

This is a point many seem to miss/ignore.

[sam greenock]

Tommo87 said:

Good,

Now let’s go back in time and fine some others ex and current MPs

Bribes, war crimes, fraud, passports for cash, there’s plenty to go around in ALL parties.

Who are the MPs ( ex too) who were convicted of war crimes?

I also don't know of any sitting PM or chancellor fined for breaking the law and previously lying about it

[thebraketester]

Yeah, that will teach them

[Mikee19]

croyde said:

I think the fines are pointless.

Question needs to be asked why they terrified a populace and ruined people's lives and jobs over a virus that those in charge obviously dismissed as harmless.

Or at least not dangerous enough to warrant keeping their distances, making sure the absolute minimum of people to be in a room together and to not meet people outside their 'bubble'.

God I despise that word.

So their mates and family members make even more money.

[oyster]

ATG said:

croyde said:

I think the fines are pointless.

Question needs to be asked why they terrified a populace and ruined people's lives and jobs over a virus that those in charge obviously dismissed as harmless.

Or at least not dangerous enough keeping their distances, making sure the minimum of people to be in a room together and to not meet people outside their 'bubble'.

God I despise that word.

Their failure to comply with the rules they imposed on the rest of the country does not tell us anything about the necessity of those rules. People flout all kinds of rules that are sensible. If BoJo got done for drink driving, we wouldn't say, "that proves drink driving legislation is unnecessary." No, we'd say "BoJo is a monumental pillock", and we'd be right, because he is.

It absolutely tells us the necessity of those rules.
This wasn't the odd small group have a few bevvies in the office after work. This was 50, 60 perhaps 100+ people making calculated decisions that the risk wasn't severe enough to stop them having a party. And not just one party - but multiple parties. They'd plainly decided the danger just wasn't there.

If Boris resigns he should do so for misleading the nation, damaging the economy and devastating millions of peoples' mental health.

[tangerine_sedge]

biggbn said:

Byker28i said:

Johnson was at six of the 12 events being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and his missus was also fined.

Hang on, this was the man that said there was no parties, then that there were parties but he didn't attend, then he did attend but didn't know they were parties because his staff didn't tell him they were...

1 December 2021: "All guidance was followed completely in Number 10"
7 December 2021: "All guidelines were observed"
8 December 2021: "There was no party and no COVID rules were broken"

Now he's been to many parties, 50 fines handed out for the parties,


It's the lying, not the parties...

This is a point many seemchoose to miss/ignore.

Fixed that for you

[Louis Balfour]

Successfully persuading Brits to vote for BREXIT, in order to further his career, was the green light to Boris that he could get away with anything. Anything at all. And so it has proved to be.

[Ivan stewart]

Not a good look !! How can we tell Mr PooTinn he is a very naughty boy when our leaders have flouted their own rules , yes I know covid isn’t as dangerous as a Russian conscript who hasn’t had any dinner but really !!!

[Rick1.8t]

originals said:

Quite right too.

Starmer makes me laugh though.

Wierd, two people, one leading the country and one the treasury fined for breaking the laws they created and then lied about breaking repeatedly..... but Stamer?

[oyster]

Ivan stewart said:

Not a good look !! How can we tell Mr PooTinn he is a very naughty boy when our leaders have flouted their own rules , yes I know covid isn’t as dangerous as a Russian conscript who hasn’t had any dinner but really !!!

Yes I can see the similarity - after all, these fines are being hidden my the UK media and anyone reporting on them could be sent to jail. And Keir Starmer might get locked up for voicing an opinion. And Boris will be the only one (bar a few crackheads) on the ballot paper at the next election.

Very similar indeed.

[The Mad Monk]

Byker28i said:

Johnson was at six of the 12 events being investigated by the Metropolitan Police and his missus was also fined.

Hang on, this was the man that said there was no parties, then that there were parties but he didn't attend, then he did attend but didn't know they were parties because his staff didn't tell him they were...

1 December 2021: "All guidance was followed completely in Number 10"
7 December 2021: "All guidelines were observed"
8 December 2021: "There was no party and no COVID rules were broken"

Now he's been to many parties, 50 fines handed out for the parties,


It's the lying, not the parties...

I should try not to worry about it too much.

The rules - such as they were - were designed to protect the individuals involved in any gathering. The only people being potentially harmed were the individuals at the gathering. If people didn't have the sense not to mingle - really, without being told not not to mingle - well, then, they got what they deserve.

Or they deserved what they got.

[2Btoo]

oyster said:

If Boris resigns he should do so for misleading the nation, damaging the economy and devastating millions of peoples' mental health.

Amen to that. Absolutely agree.

[Donbot]

ATG said:

Their failure to comply with the rules they imposed on the rest of the country does not tell us anything about the necessity of those rules. People flout all kinds of rules that are sensible. If BoJo got done for drink driving, we wouldn't say, "that proves drink driving legislation is unnecessary." No, we'd say "BoJo is a monumental pillock", and we'd be right, because he is.

If the current government banned drink driving and then a load of them got caught, then attempted to pass it off as something else, it would certainly raise some serious questions.

[GetCarter]

To be honest, the parties and fines are neither here nor there. He lied repeatedly to parliament, so under the ministerial code MUST go. If he doesn't, then all future PM's will lie with impunity to the Commons, knowing they won't get any sort of castigation.