Council tax increase
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andygo

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7,284 posts

278 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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I realise that iyt's not 'just' council tax thats in my latest Council Tax Notice, but last year I was paying £1,982. This year it's £2,292 for the year. Thats a 15% increase. Why doesn't this seem to be a matter of discussion? Whichever way it's carved up politically in the, it's quite a jump.

Am I missing something?

Marumi

184 posts

49 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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It probably is/was a matter for discussion, if you read the council minutes for the various budget meetings.

There'll also be a breakdown somewhere where you can see what explicitly has changed.

Seventy

5,500 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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I thought council tax increases were capped at 5%?

Monkeylegend

28,392 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Mine has gone up from £167 per month to £172.

With the £150 "refund" it has effectively gone down by £7.50 a month.

Until they claw back the refund at some stage.

interstellar

4,771 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Mines gone up £4 a month in Dorset, mustn’t grumble

Monkeylegend

28,392 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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nuyorican said:
Council Tax is outrageous. Nearly £3K to grudgingly empty a bin occasionally...
It funds a bit more than that.

You are also actually paying your local bobbies wages amongst other things so you can tell them that when you get pulled over for speeding or something smile

https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/homes/buying-a-h...

jimmytheone

1,889 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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nuyorican said:
Council Tax is outrageous. Nearly £3K to grudgingly empty a bin occasionally...
They now charge extra for the green/garden bin so round this way (Herts) they're charging more for less.

I thought the 5% cap was designed such that anything over 5% would require a local vote (?), hence most increases are 4.99%

Monkeylegend

28,392 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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jimmytheone said:
They now charge extra for the green/garden bin so round this way (Herts) they're charging more for less.

I thought the 5% cap was designed such that anything over 5% would require a local vote (?), hence most increases are 4.99%
They charge an optional £43 a year for our garden waste bin, I think that is excellent value for money compared to the time and cost of taking all our garden rubbish to the tip.

You don't have to pay for a brown bin if you don't want one.

andygo

Original Poster:

7,284 posts

278 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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There was a 7.4% increase in the fire service precept. Interestingly they have sold off the local fire station to build an old folks home.

FunkyNige

9,712 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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jimmytheone said:
nuyorican said:
Council Tax is outrageous. Nearly £3K to grudgingly empty a bin occasionally...
They now charge extra for the green/garden bin so round this way (Herts) they're charging more for less.

I thought the 5% cap was designed such that anything over 5% would require a local vote (?), hence most increases are 4.99%
I think that's the main council tax that's capped, things like adult social care precept don't have a limit.

Ours only went up 3% to £1981 (band D) which isn't bad considering we've got so many holiday homes around here.

Shnozz

30,045 posts

294 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
nuyorican said:
Council Tax is outrageous. Nearly £3K to grudgingly empty a bin occasionally...
It funds a bit more than that.
My council tax in Spain per year amounts to about 2 months of my UK council tax, on a far bigger property. I can't see any additional services I benefit from in the UK. If anything, the tax abroad includes things such as fiestas and fireworks that the UK one doesn't. And lets not forget that the Spanish civil service is just as bloated and bureaucratic as the UK's, if not more, so its not even as though you could just argue inefficiency.

I cannot get around the staggering amounts paid for so little provided. And let's not forget that most of the reductions for vacant properties have been eroded in recent years, so even those empty houses who require no services are contributing to the pot.

jmn

1,118 posts

303 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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About 3% increase for East Devon so not too bad.

vaud

58,009 posts

178 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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3.2% overall here (Bradford)

I was expecting more.

alock

4,479 posts

234 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
nuyorican said:
Council Tax is outrageous. Nearly £3K to grudgingly empty a bin occasionally...
It funds a bit more than that.
Lots of fat council pensions to pay for

HRL

3,353 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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jmn said:
About 3% increase for East Devon so not too bad.
£3.5K for us in bloody North Devon! The full fat 5% increase too.

fat80b

3,175 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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4.5% overall here in Cambridge. (Within that the council component was 4.99%)

Never fails to annoy me that it increases at basically the max limit every year. At least this time it is below inflation smile silver linings and all that

If I had my way, It'd be reducing in real terms at least. There must be so much waste in there....

Saleen836

12,187 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Mine is going up by £42 for the year but factor in the £150 rebate i'm up on the deal smile

crankedup5

10,917 posts

58 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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andygo said:
I realise that iyt's not 'just' council tax thats in my latest Council Tax Notice, but last year I was paying £1,982. This year it's £2,292 for the year. Thats a 15% increase. Why doesn't this seem to be a matter of discussion? Whichever way it's carved up politically in the, it's quite a jump.

Am I missing something?
I raised this very issue several weeks ago.

Countdown

47,237 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
They charge an optional £43 a year for our garden waste bin, I think that is excellent value for money compared to the time and cost of taking all our garden rubbish to the tip.

You don't have to pay for a brown bin if you don't want one.
I think it's £35/year here (and optional). We share with our neighbour - neither of us needs a full bin of garden waste taking every two week so we alternate.

IMHO charging extra for the garden waste bins is the right approach. those who use the service pay, those who don't need or want it don't pay for it.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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I like the fact I pay it with wages I've already been taxed on.

Mine's a few quid shy of £3,000.

The joy of owning a nice house on a fairly modest salary...