P&O ferries suspending operations

P&O ferries suspending operations

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Scrump

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22,939 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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BBC news just reported that P&O ferries are suspending operations and have asked staff to disembark any passengers and cargo.
Staff should standby by for an important announcement about the future of the business.

Any ideas what this is about? I hadn’t heard any rumours of anything happening.

ecsrobin

17,827 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Byker28i

68,015 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Oh sweet - just as LeMans is back on etc

Dog Star

16,486 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Oh for fks sake - am I living in some sort of alternate reality?

We are booked on the Hull-Rotterdam boat next week - I guess that's not happening. I guess it's going to be a million quid tunnel trip and ten hour queues for border control. mad


TTmonkey

20,911 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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How odd.

If they aren’t going bust today, why ask all ships to return to port and offload passengers before they tell us what’s happening….


I can’t understand a scenario where this is needed before telling us what is going on.

It must be something that will induce mass panic and hysteria…..

I think it must be a zombie outbreak or some other end of world scenario…. hehe

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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To ensure our long-term viability as a ferry company, we're cancelling all ferry trips and booting the passengers off at port.

Grim stuff, hope they work something out.

Taffer

2,201 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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They say they're not going into liquidation, and the announcement will 'secure the long-term viability of P&O Ferries'.

The ships have been ordered to stay alongside and cease operations - crew replacement with cheaper labour? AFAIK they've got rid of most of the British ratings, so possibly officers too now - they already have a very high amount on agency contracts and not permanent employment.

ChemicalChaos

10,524 posts

167 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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PM Carrie Johnson has cancelled all their operations forthwith because they're bad for the environment

trickywoo

12,305 posts

237 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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I had an invoice paid by them last week for some consultancy work I did in August. woohoo

snotrag

14,928 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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How do ships difffer from aircraft - I work in Aviation so think in terms of 'airworthiness' and this is what you do when you are going to revoke the 'airworthiness' of a jet, so its not stuck in limbo, as it were.


If the P&O airlines is having its air operators cert revoked (because they are going bust, or being shut down and re-setup as a new company for instance) you ground all the jets at your home bases, take the pax and crew off and THEN file the paperwork,to save them being stuck overseas or mid-air and not technically compliant.


Does this carry across? Is 'seaworthiness' a thing?

Puggit

48,803 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Firing all staff and replacing with cheaper labour?

https://twitter.com/benclatworthy/status/150440887...

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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No more Red Diesel?

ecsrobin

17,827 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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snotrag said:
How do ships difffer from aircraft - I work in Aviation so think in terms of 'airworthiness' and this is what you do when you are going to revoke the 'airworthiness' of a jet, so its not stuck in limbo, as it were.


If the P&O airlines is having its air operators cert revoked (because they are going bust, or being shut down and re-setup as a new company for instance) you ground all the jets at your home bases, take the pax and crew off and THEN file the paperwork,to save them being stuck overseas or mid-air and not technically compliant.


Does this carry across? Is 'seaworthiness' a thing?
My thoughts were a change of name which then would be a change of insurance.

snotrag

14,928 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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ecsrobin said:
My thoughts were a change of name which then would be a change of insurance.
Thats exactly where I was going with my thoughts - a name change, or 'new' company which means everything is re-filed, new operators licence/cert, insurance, etc ec.

AB

17,407 posts

202 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Would this have any impact on the Cruise side of the business? I doubt it but I'm due to clear my balance for a June cruise tomorrow.

Taffer

2,201 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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AB said:
Would this have any impact on the Cruise side of the business? I doubt it but I'm due to clear my balance for a June cruise tomorrow.
P&O Cruises is a separate company, owned by the Carnival group - P&O Ferries is owned by DP World, based in Dubai.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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AB said:
Would this have any impact on the Cruise side of the business? I doubt it but I'm due to clear my balance for a June cruise tomorrow.
Took my wife on a P&O cruise. Lasted 35 minutes. hehe


She wasn’t impressed.

The Hypno-Toad

12,683 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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"Well, now we've finished with Covid we can't have the lower classes cluttering up the continent can we? They did to start appreciating that if they want a holiday, they need to be planning for Blackpool, Margate or Cleethorpes rather than anywhere we want to go. The days of oiks going abroad, lowering the tone of the places we want to visit are now gone."


And yes I am joking.


Or am I..... scratchchin


Huntsman

8,206 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Apparently 40% owned by a Russian.

valiant

11,338 posts

167 months

Thursday 17th March 2022
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Puggit said:
Firing all staff and replacing with cheaper labour?

https://twitter.com/benclatworthy/status/150440887...
Can’t just arbitrarily fire all staff, can you?

My employment law knowledge may be well out of date but there is a fairly proscriptive process to go through. This ain’t the US where fire and hire are a thing. Has there been anything bubbling under the surface over the last few months?