CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)
Discussion
Thanks Moderation team
I've redone my table and charts
Because it's not like we haven't seen enough graphs in the past 2 years is it
PS Welcome back to those who have been absent from the conversation during Vol 17
I've redone my table and charts
Volume | Start Date | End Date | Days |
1 | 21/03/2020 | 05/05/2020 | 45 |
2 | 05/05/2020 | 25/06/2020 | 51 |
3 | 25/06/2020 | 16/08/2020 | 52 |
4 | 16/08/2020 | 27/09/2020 | 42 |
5 | 27/09/2020 | 31/10/2020 | 34 |
6 | 31/10/2020 | 29/11/2020 | 29 |
7 | 29/11/2020 | 24/12/2020 | 25 |
8 | 24/12/2020 | 13/01/2021 | 20 |
9 | 13/01/2021 | 12/02/2021 | 30 |
10 | 12/02/2021 | 25/03/2021 | 41 |
11 | 25/03/2021 | 10/05/2021 | 46 |
12 | 10/05/2021 | 22/06/2021 | 43 |
13 | 22/06/2021 | 30/07/2021 | 38 |
14 | 30/07/2021 | 14/10/2021 | 76 |
15 | 14/10/2021 | 26/11/2021 | 43 |
16 | 26/11/2021 | 20/12/2021 | 24 |
17 | 20/12/2021 | 28/01/2022 | 39 |
Because it's not like we haven't seen enough graphs in the past 2 years is it
PS Welcome back to those who have been absent from the conversation during Vol 17
I haven't posted in one of these for a while, mainly because it's turned into a crap fest of arguing and "IT'S A WEF CONSPIRACY TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOMS AWAY! REEEEE FASCISM".
But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
75Black said:
I haven't posted in one of these for a while, mainly because it's turned into a crap fest of arguing and "IT'S A WEF CONSPIRACY TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOMS AWAY! REEEEE FASCISM".
But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
Only if you want to keep the pandemic going.But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
I’m a bit confused about the high testing figures now PCR isn’t required. Do people really do home LFTs and upload their positive to the nhs website? Why? And there is no checks on validity of the result so it’s complete garbage, how public health policy can/could be shaped by these home brew results is a concern.
Called care home again this afternoon.....
Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
Vanden Saab said:
Cases will go up, a lot, at the moment once you had a positive test that was it, you were done. Now if you catch it again you will be counted again. If 50% of people are now catching it for the second time that is a 50% increase in cases. On the positive side the IFR and CFR along with the hospitalization rates will plummet
Just thought, if all metrics are published (cases, hospitalisations, ICU, deaths) we will be able calculate percentages for reinfections > hospitalisations, reinfections > ICU and reinfections > deaths(Who was asking for reinfections >> ICU?)
None withstanding the woolyness of the "with 28 days" criteria I suppose
And might not be meaningful as if the majority of reinfections are in the younger cohort, you would expect near zero hospitalisations and deaths regardless
55north1west said:
Has Prof Chris Whitty been found yet?
Major disappearing act since predicting Ormigeddon….
To be honest I think he will be distancing himself from the situation, he's been used as a scientific puppet throughout, the question is if he knew the data he was presented was BS or was he the one orchestrating the BS itself. Major disappearing act since predicting Ormigeddon….
Biggus thingus said:
Called care home again this afternoon.....
Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
Ah how hurtful and inhumane.Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
can she voluntarily leave? ie a trip out with you, lunch out or even sit in your car in the car park?
M1AGM said:
75Black said:
I haven't posted in one of these for a while, mainly because it's turned into a crap fest of arguing and "IT'S A WEF CONSPIRACY TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOMS AWAY! REEEEE FASCISM".
But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
Only if you want to keep the pandemic going.But is it time to stop counting cases? Or least publishing them? We weathered Omicron with a slight change in restrictions that went away with nary a whimper and the doom of hospitals being flooded didn't materialise, Denmark is dropping all restriction from the 1st of Feb too. Is there a point any more?
I’m a bit confused about the high testing figures now PCR isn’t required. Do people really do home LFTs and upload their positive to the nhs website? Why? And there is no checks on validity of the result so it’s complete garbage, how public health policy can/could be shaped by these home brew results is a concern.
It's no wonder some people try to explain this reaction on something other than government concerns over public health.
Biggus thingus said:
Called care home again this afternoon.....
Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
Try this:Sorry, we had ONE staff test + so we have to lock down, might get test results by next friday if we're lucky!
Last saw Mum on Boxing day after seeing her at least once a week since she went in, 18 months of window/doorway and finally inside visits
Every week since it's been "waiting for test results", "had a staff member test +" "infection control telling us no visitors"
These are all injected staff as i know they lost some when the mandate came in
So whats the fking point with the injections if they are testing +???
https://youtu.be/NyASSAfdM18
@50 mins 30 seconds, a listener emails with an identical situation.
"Essential care giver status" is an exemption you
R Mutt said:
And there are still people hysterical over our high cases numbers, and in places like NZ, locking down over EIGHT cases
It's no wonder some people try to explain this reaction on something other than government concerns over public health.
I still can't help feeling this pandemic has been such a clusterfk due to the number of petty bureaucrats and middle managers who have been given power beyond their wildest dreams, and now they have it, they aren't giving it up without a fight. It's no wonder some people try to explain this reaction on something other than government concerns over public health.
My exhibits to back up my case - N Sturgeon and M Drakeford.
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