Ghislaine Maxwell trial
Discussion
I can't find the other thread, so shall we start a new one on the trail proceedings
Prosecutors claim that Maxwell procured girls, eespecially young ones for Epstein via the “ruse” of a massage, and charged under the Mann Act which is largely used only for trafficking offenses, where people are being forced into prostitution against their will. She also faces charges of sex trafficking and conspiring to commit sex trafficking.
Maxwells defence claims that she is being scapegoated because Epstein’s death led her accusers unable to seek justice. They have also won permission to call pyschologist Elizabeth Loftus, a false memory expert relied upon by Harvey Weinstein, Robert Durst, O.J. Simpson amongst others.
Prosecutors have four people as “Minor Victim” in the indictment, ranging from the ages of 14 to 17 at the time of the abuse. Three will be testifying under pseudonyms, and only one, Annie Farmer, has been named in court documents. The defence are claiming that two of the accuser Farmer and Minor Victim 3 reached the age of consent in the states they were allegedly abused.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5945560...
Prosecutors claim that Maxwell procured girls, eespecially young ones for Epstein via the “ruse” of a massage, and charged under the Mann Act which is largely used only for trafficking offenses, where people are being forced into prostitution against their will. She also faces charges of sex trafficking and conspiring to commit sex trafficking.
Maxwells defence claims that she is being scapegoated because Epstein’s death led her accusers unable to seek justice. They have also won permission to call pyschologist Elizabeth Loftus, a false memory expert relied upon by Harvey Weinstein, Robert Durst, O.J. Simpson amongst others.
Prosecutors have four people as “Minor Victim” in the indictment, ranging from the ages of 14 to 17 at the time of the abuse. Three will be testifying under pseudonyms, and only one, Annie Farmer, has been named in court documents. The defence are claiming that two of the accuser Farmer and Minor Victim 3 reached the age of consent in the states they were allegedly abused.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5945560...
tangerine_sedge said:
Yes, I think this is worth a separate thread. I think this is going to be quite a 'dirty' trial with lots of victim blaming interspersed with revealing information about the social world in which she lived and operated.
I agree with you completely... we'll see how it transpires. We know by now, we'll never hear the real 'truth', however, given the lifestyle that she led, so much of it will sound barely believable to many - that wont help.
Murph7355 said:
Vizsla said:
I'm sure she'll get the best justice that money can buy.
Having said that, I think her team will have an uphill battle, many Americans will not warm to a posh, spoilt, entitled, social parasite Brit.
I'm not sure many Brits would.Having said that, I think her team will have an uphill battle, many Americans will not warm to a posh, spoilt, entitled, social parasite Brit.
toohuge said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Yes, I think this is worth a separate thread. I think this is going to be quite a 'dirty' trial with lots of victim blaming interspersed with revealing information about the social world in which she lived and operated.
I agree with you completely... we'll see how it transpires. We know by now, we'll never hear the real 'truth', however, given the lifestyle that she led, so much of it will sound barely believable to many - that wont help.
OpulentBob said:
Jasandjules said:
Looking forward to the list of those she supplied......
Won't happen. She will be dead by 9am tomorrow (NYC time). Suicide, she will have chopped both her hands off, flushed them down the toilet, and then shot herself in the head. Obviously.
"The charges against Ghislaine Maxwell are for things that Jeffrey Epstein did, but she is not Jeffrey Epstein," her lawyer Bobbi Sternheim argued.
I would struggle to believe that she was not a co-conspirator to Epstein’s bidding. I presume that she would need to successfully claim that she was also being controlled by him.
There seems to be a number of parallel’s with the Stephen Ward trial in the Profumo affair, where “good-time girls” were routinely set up to compromise targets (e.g. Prince Andrew). The key difference is the age of the girls,
It will be an interesting trial.
I would struggle to believe that she was not a co-conspirator to Epstein’s bidding. I presume that she would need to successfully claim that she was also being controlled by him.
There seems to be a number of parallel’s with the Stephen Ward trial in the Profumo affair, where “good-time girls” were routinely set up to compromise targets (e.g. Prince Andrew). The key difference is the age of the girls,
It will be an interesting trial.
Her biggest issue will probably be her own attitude and demeanour.
Apparently her lawyers are very worried about what the jury will think of her. They assembled numerous 'test juries' using people from the same geographical areas that the real jury will be selected from, and played them videos of Maxwell recorded during legal proceedings and meetings so far, then asked for their opinion.
The test juries overwhelmingly said they found Maxwell to be "Wholly unlikeable, very arrogant, suspicious and lacking credibility"
Apparently her lawyers are very worried about what the jury will think of her. They assembled numerous 'test juries' using people from the same geographical areas that the real jury will be selected from, and played them videos of Maxwell recorded during legal proceedings and meetings so far, then asked for their opinion.
The test juries overwhelmingly said they found Maxwell to be "Wholly unlikeable, very arrogant, suspicious and lacking credibility"
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