Romance Fraud - again
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Muzzer79

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13,141 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9838979/R...

I always feel sympathy for these people - especially the older generation. However, it seems this woman is expecting to just be bailed out........

Article said:
"Rachel accepts she was fooled and has stressed she does not expect special treatment.

She said: 'I have never disputed that I authorised the payments.

'I know this is my mistake, but under their code I am eligible for help and I just want to be treated fairly which is why I am taking this further.'
Article said:
A spokesperson for Santander said: 'We have the utmost sympathy for Ms Elwell and all those who fall victim to the criminals who carry out these scams.

'Unfortunately, despite repeatedly warning her of the dangers of transferring money to someone she hadn't met and directly raising our concerns that this was a scam with Ms Elwell and the police, she confirmed she wanted to proceed with the payments.'
I'm sorry, but if you are repeatedly warned about this by the bank, personal responsibility comes into force.....



Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Unfortunate but she knowingly ignored the warnings.


Who would ever send money like that to a stranger? makes no sense.

Eric Mc

125,717 posts

295 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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People who are desperate, not of sound mind, not thinking clearly, depressed????

CoolHands

23,548 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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In her particular case it was an idiot tax (if she was actually warned)

Terminator X

20,745 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Some are more successful than others.



TX.

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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The banks shouldn't ever reimburse in this case or unscrupulous folk would send money to friends in foreign countries and claim to be scammed and double their money.

Mafffew

2,149 posts

141 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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I've got no sympathy whatsoever

SpeckledJim

34,209 posts

283 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Dromedary66 said:
The banks shouldn't ever reimburse in this case or unscrupulous folk would send money to friends in foreign countries and claim to be scammed and double their money.
This. The banks have a duty to warn their customers about doing stupid things and take to reasonable steps to protect us from ourselves, especially the old and vulnerable.

BUT. We all have the right to do stupid things and it's not the bank's job to stop us throwing all our money into a lake.



I do think banks should be forced to offer a 'no new or unknown payees' lock on accounts, to allow vulnerable account holders to be protected.

danpalmer1993

515 posts

138 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Not entirely sure what she thinks they have done unfairly or what more they could have done to support her.

bobtail4x4

4,419 posts

139 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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agreed

CoolHands

23,548 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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danpalmer1993 said:
Not entirely sure what she thinks they have done unfairly or what more they could have done to support her.
Simple - she wants to have her cake and eat it.

That bd bank!

Alex_225

7,818 posts

231 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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It's unfortunate but also extremely stupid and I'm struggling to have sympathy here.

If she was an elderly person who was unknowing and actively conned out of money it's a different situation. This particular example seems to be someone who's naive and very gullible. Perhaps too nice for her own good but how is that anyone else's fault?

hyphen

26,262 posts

120 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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danpalmer1993 said:
Not entirely sure what she thinks they have done unfairly or what more they could have done to support her.
As stated in the articles box, the banks have signed up to some voluntary code and that she feels that she falls under this particular protection.

S100HP

13,805 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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I mean it's easy to fall for it. I almost got caught the other day....















The hottie seems to have left me alone now. iSad.

Muzzer79

Original Poster:

13,141 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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anonymous said:
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There were bank flags. They repeatedly contacted her (and the Police apparently) to say it looked very much like a scam.

She proceeded anyway and now wants the bank to cover it......

Legacywr

15,751 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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The thing is, even if the guy was genuine, she would still have given all her money away?

dieselgrunt

738 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Her gofundme details the whole story. At one point the police came round to check:


Police officers from the West Midlands Economic Crime Victim Care unit arrived at my house on Friday 5 March, sent by Santander to question me about my relationship with Bario, as my bank were worried.
Whilst I did not have a gun to my head, it felt as if I did. If I alerted them to Bario’s situation …the gangsters could kill him …so I lied and said everything was okay.

It’s hard to see how she can win any appeals with such behaviour, lying to police and the bank. I feel sorry for her but this is all on her.

Legacywr

15,751 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Bario...

bitchstewie

67,883 posts

240 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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To those saying they've no sympathy I'd simply ask at what point do you draw the line between stupidity and perhaps some deeper issues around mental health and being vulnerable to that kind of thing?

I half get it because you read it and think "oh my god you did what?" but the people who fall for these scams are often lonely or vulnerable or whatever you want to call it.

I get that it's probably not the fault of the banks but some of the views whilst unsurprising seem to assume people make a deliberate choice.

MOBB

4,582 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th July 2021
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Dromedary66 said:
The banks shouldn't ever reimburse in this case or unscrupulous folk would send money to friends in foreign countries and claim to be scammed and double their money.
I wonder if this is an example of such an attempt?