The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP
Discussion
My summary of Hancock:
He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.
He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.
I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.
He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.
I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
Lord Marylebone said:
My summary of Hancock:
He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.
He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.
I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
I think there's a lot of truth in this.He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.
He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.
I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
Some appalling mistakes but I have to give credit that he appears to be trying and has the decency to look pretty f
king haunted by what's happened.I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
He was on TV this morning.
Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS.
Well how about the NHS uses the billions it receives every year to protect us for a change?
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fProtect the NHS. Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS.
Well how about the NHS uses the billions it receives every year to protect us for a change?
king away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation AJ5641 said:
I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.
...with absolute confidence eh?Jeez, can you vote?
What I am curious about is the extent to which the health secretary really influences things.
You have PM, health secretary and political party machinery.
You have the civil service, health service and all the associated (conflicting) science from career bods.
You have HMT with the cheque book.
is the health secretary supposed to be a superman (or woman) who "fixes" it all? No, they probably spend their day rotating from meeting to meeting being "told" things they can do little about but nod.
So really with uk politics, their career, and view of them formed by the hard working tax payer (barring illegal cleaners and sex parties) is really how well they respond to forceful questions from radio hosts or piers.
Fluff them a la Abbott, and you're toast for ever.
Hold your own with a cocky assuredness (Cameron) and you win elections.
One current litmus test though is the nightingale hospitals, which my town Facebook group is busy bewailing the fact they're empty whilst ambulances are queued up outside hospitals.
It would appear there is no staff for them (and never has been). Yet in march someone pulled the trigger on a fifth of a billion pounds constructing them knowing this....
This would be a situation where the secretary concerned should be getting an almighty arse kicking from the press.
But where is Hancock? Keeping very quiet.
You also have the view Hancock inherited an NHS that had been denied the annual funding increases it had become accustomed to, had cut funded training for nurses, and had international recruitment made harder for it.
Was that his doing? No - Harsh to blame him...no one can just undo that, though he was signed up to the conservative manifesto that condoned that course of action, so definitely complicit.
Doubly ironic as rishi has already spent an order if magnitude more than the funds the NHS wanted under Hunt...but who was to know a pandemic was coming?
You have PM, health secretary and political party machinery.
You have the civil service, health service and all the associated (conflicting) science from career bods.
You have HMT with the cheque book.
is the health secretary supposed to be a superman (or woman) who "fixes" it all? No, they probably spend their day rotating from meeting to meeting being "told" things they can do little about but nod.
So really with uk politics, their career, and view of them formed by the hard working tax payer (barring illegal cleaners and sex parties) is really how well they respond to forceful questions from radio hosts or piers.
Fluff them a la Abbott, and you're toast for ever.
Hold your own with a cocky assuredness (Cameron) and you win elections.
One current litmus test though is the nightingale hospitals, which my town Facebook group is busy bewailing the fact they're empty whilst ambulances are queued up outside hospitals.
It would appear there is no staff for them (and never has been). Yet in march someone pulled the trigger on a fifth of a billion pounds constructing them knowing this....
This would be a situation where the secretary concerned should be getting an almighty arse kicking from the press.
But where is Hancock? Keeping very quiet.
You also have the view Hancock inherited an NHS that had been denied the annual funding increases it had become accustomed to, had cut funded training for nurses, and had international recruitment made harder for it.
Was that his doing? No - Harsh to blame him...no one can just undo that, though he was signed up to the conservative manifesto that condoned that course of action, so definitely complicit.
Doubly ironic as rishi has already spent an order if magnitude more than the funds the NHS wanted under Hunt...but who was to know a pandemic was coming?
ClaphamGT3 said:
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fking away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation
My sister qualified as a nurse a few years ago and has since developed the most immense chip on her shoulder. She really has bought into the hype surrounding the newly deified health workers. When she was clapped to her car early in the pandemic she immediately went onto WhatsApp to tell us all about how embarrassed she was. Don't know about you, but that is a different way of expressing embarrassment than anything I've ever felt. We even had a falling out when she suggested that all teachers should opt out of NHS care because nurseries closing a few day early before Christmas (Wales) made childcare for her difficult. I'm a teacher. king away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation Anyway, the point I was making is that if she heard you talking like that she would immediately go to her new favourite line; "Opt out of NHS care". Turned into quite an unpleasant person with a huge superiority complex.
Completely irrelevant to the thread sorry.
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