Lad killed by US wrong side driver, who's done a bunk...
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-diplomats...
I drove past the scene of this a week or so ago en route to a trackday at Silverstone, and could see the flowers and impact marks, the motorcyclist had no chance.
There was some local gossip at the time I believe that suggested there was some sort of cover up and only small local press articles that were quite mooted. I looked into it a bit as it appears the poor lad was distantly related to a mate of mine from school in Ireland!
Accident happened on a brow of a hill in a 40mph limit, the car on the wrong side was a black Volvo SUV and accident was near dusk. She'd turned out of the base, and driven 400 yards or so on the wrong side and when the impact happened it is double white lines.
Why the f
k are these retards allowed to drive on our roads in their yanky LHD cars with no proper training? It appears on the base, they drive on the right and have to swap when they come off base. fking ridiculous idea.
35 years ago, I was hit by an American student cyclist who was going down a one way street the wrong way, and it smashed my ankel and lower leg to bits, (compound fracture), He stopped, gave all his details, police were there etc, but then did a bunk back to the US and did not return for any court case and of course I got no compo as it was the 80's and he was not insured etc. 2 years before I could walk anyway near right and even to this day I struggle on uneven surfaces.
Chicken sts
I drove past the scene of this a week or so ago en route to a trackday at Silverstone, and could see the flowers and impact marks, the motorcyclist had no chance.
There was some local gossip at the time I believe that suggested there was some sort of cover up and only small local press articles that were quite mooted. I looked into it a bit as it appears the poor lad was distantly related to a mate of mine from school in Ireland!
Accident happened on a brow of a hill in a 40mph limit, the car on the wrong side was a black Volvo SUV and accident was near dusk. She'd turned out of the base, and driven 400 yards or so on the wrong side and when the impact happened it is double white lines.
Why the f
k are these retards allowed to drive on our roads in their yanky LHD cars with no proper training? It appears on the base, they drive on the right and have to swap when they come off base. fking ridiculous idea. 35 years ago, I was hit by an American student cyclist who was going down a one way street the wrong way, and it smashed my ankel and lower leg to bits, (compound fracture), He stopped, gave all his details, police were there etc, but then did a bunk back to the US and did not return for any court case and of course I got no compo as it was the 80's and he was not insured etc. 2 years before I could walk anyway near right and even to this day I struggle on uneven surfaces.
Chicken s
tsEdited by poo at Paul's on Saturday 5th October 11:26
While what has happened in this case following the accident is totally wrong may I suggest that no amount of training would make the slightest bit of difference. At times all of us will revert to the sub-conscious while driving abroad more so if we drive a lot at home. Having realised this, now when I drive abroad I have a piece of paper stuck to the windscreen in my eyeline saying "drive on the right".
For me it is the only way as I know especially when under pressure my sub-conscious will take over the driving for me and I might end up on the wrong side of the road without it.
For me it is the only way as I know especially when under pressure my sub-conscious will take over the driving for me and I might end up on the wrong side of the road without it.
It's a tough one. On the one hand it's a "there but for the grace of god go I" scenario - I remember being in Paris in 2001 in my RHD scirocco and a couple of times, typically as I recall turning at large intersections and drifting to the wrong side before my mate screamed "ontherightontherightONTHERIGHT!!!" at me so it's a stupidly easy thing to do. I wonder how many of us have had similar experiences?
On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
Teddy Lop said:
It's a tough one. On the one hand it's a "there but for the grace of god go I" scenario - I remember being in Paris in 2001 in my RHD scirocco and a couple of times, typically as I recall turning at large intersections and drifting to the wrong side before my mate screamed "ontherightontherightONTHERIGHT!!!" at me so it's a stupidly easy thing to do. I wonder how many of us have had similar experiences?
On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
She's not being tried in the US, or anywhere else, she's claimed diplomatic immunity. How anyone could cause the death of another and allow themselves to just walk away is beyond me. On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
And of course an investigation would have shown it was "just an accident". Or it may have shown she was rushing to take her two kids to ballet, drunk, on drugs, not insured, or had maybe even done it before??? Who knows?
IMO, respectfully, the action following the death of this young lad, minding his own business, speaks volumes as to whether it was merely an accident, or if there was some negligence on someone's part. No statement from the RAF base, a letter to the family by the Ambassador and that is it...fk you guys.
Now, this was just a 19 year old lad on his motorbike, I understand he lived locally and was from a decent working class family. Would this have happened had it been someone more in the public eye, a minor Royal, the Chief Constable's son, an MP's spouse or kid? But an ordinary Joe Smoe, and this story breaks on the back pages what, 6 or 7 weeks after the event....?
Stinks IMO
IMO, respectfully, the action following the death of this young lad, minding his own business, speaks volumes as to whether it was merely an accident, or if there was some negligence on someone's part. No statement from the RAF base, a letter to the family by the Ambassador and that is it...f
k you guys.Now, this was just a 19 year old lad on his motorbike, I understand he lived locally and was from a decent working class family. Would this have happened had it been someone more in the public eye, a minor Royal, the Chief Constable's son, an MP's spouse or kid? But an ordinary Joe Smoe, and this story breaks on the back pages what, 6 or 7 weeks after the event....?
Stinks IMO
R1 Dave said:
Teddy Lop said:
It's a tough one. On the one hand it's a "there but for the grace of god go I" scenario - I remember being in Paris in 2001 in my RHD scirocco and a couple of times, typically as I recall turning at large intersections and drifting to the wrong side before my mate screamed "ontherightontherightONTHERIGHT!!!" at me so it's a stupidly easy thing to do. I wonder how many of us have had similar experiences?
On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
She's not being tried in the US, or anywhere else, she's claimed diplomatic immunity. How anyone could cause the death of another and allow themselves to just walk away is beyond me. On the other hand to just be simply whisked away from any form of accountability whatsoever is not right, even if she was to be tried in the US under US law or whatever.
I had a huge crash in a Mini when I was 21. Bloke in a Volvo S80 pulled out of a junction right in front of me leaving me absolutely nowhere to go. Absolutely destroyed my car, which ended up a third shorter than it was and left me with carpal tunnel syndrome and tendency towards panic attacks for the next few years.
Anyway the Volvo driver was a Yank (from Hawaii) and the suggestion was that he hadn't even looked as he'd pulled out of the junction. He may have been drinking too, as he had just pulled out of a pub car park, but the police man who attended only breathalysed me for some reason (presumably because I was 21).
Anyway the Volvo driver was a Yank (from Hawaii) and the suggestion was that he hadn't even looked as he'd pulled out of the junction. He may have been drinking too, as he had just pulled out of a pub car park, but the police man who attended only breathalysed me for some reason (presumably because I was 21).
Pinoyuk said:
Why was this thread moved from “News” etc .Its a active story been run by the BBC today etc . In fact the thread title does not even mention “Bikes” . American owned internet site doing its best to keep the story hidden in a sub forum ?
The move is in very poor taste .The fact he was on a bike is not the story at all. The story is the USA removing someone who should be kept in the UK to go through the whole process etc .
Noted that it was the OP who mucked us about !!! Apologies to anyone in HQ The move is in very poor taste .The fact he was on a bike is not the story at all. The story is the USA removing someone who should be kept in the UK to go through the whole process etc .
Edited by Pinoyuk on Saturday 5th October 15:57
Locally there are questions being asked as to whether she did have any diplomatic immunity and if so was it there before the incident or was it granted afterwards?
Also looking at the RAF site’s Facebook, ironically, some days before the incident, there was a Volvo event on at the base, trying to sell them to military personnel. I wonder how hard they push the ‘safety’ angle.....?
Also looking at the RAF site’s Facebook, ironically, some days before the incident, there was a Volvo event on at the base, trying to sell them to military personnel. I wonder how hard they push the ‘safety’ angle.....?
poo at Paul's said:
As OP I asked for it to be moved to BB, as posted in news by accident. So no conspiracy theory, although I like the suggestion!
This cover up is at multiple levels! Lol
I asked mods to move it back, and they have. This cover up is at multiple levels! Lol
So I am clearly waaaayyyyyyyyy more important than you
I imagine there will be more to come on this story- Mail will be tracking down name and details of this woman.
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