NHS in If you give patients medicine they get better shocker
NHS in If you give patients medicine they get better shocker
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andymadmak

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15,724 posts

301 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15340102

Unless I'm miss reading this, someone has noticed that if you actually give the patients the medicine they are prescribed in Hospitals then they actually get better - in the very least they don't die!

Apparently the culture of "holding people to account" works! Would this be the same "holding people to account" culture that so many public sector workers in my acquaintance find so "challenging, demeaning, pressurising and an insult to their professional integrity" (a verbatim quote from a friend of mine who is a nurse)

Digga

48,497 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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andymadmak said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15340102

Unless I'm miss reading this, someone has noticed that if you actually give the patients the medicine they are prescribed in Hospitals then they actually get better - in the very least they don't die!

Apparently the culture of "holding people to account" works! Would this be the same "holding people to account" culture that so many public sector workers in my acquaintance find so "challenging, demeaning, pressurising and an insult to their professional integrity" (a verbatim quote from a friend of mine who is a nurse)
I can confirm, from extensive research (i.e. time spent wasted waiting at Stafford Hospital, mentioned in the article) that better IT would also enable a huge cut in over-head and non-jobs. The people they have trogging about with trolleys full of 'data' is unbelievable in this day and age.

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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I agree with the NHS operating a no blame culture that does not seek to punish honest mistakes. My Mother's life ended earlier than it should have due to a mistake by a nurse, but it was a genuine accident and nothing would be gained by holding her to account.

However, people must be held to account for doing their jobs properly, delivering all the prescribed meds to all patients should be the bare minimum required to be considered effective.

Jasandjules

72,662 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Yet more "No s**t sherlock".

CoolC

4,507 posts

245 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Yet more "No s**t sherlock".
Is there a NSS smiley?

crankedup

25,764 posts

274 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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No real news today then.

Jasandjules

72,662 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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crankedup said:
No real news today then.
Check the Libya thread....

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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CoolC said:
Jasandjules said:
Yet more "No s**t sherlock".
Is there a NSS smiley?
Sorry, it phoned in sick this morning

andymadmak

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15,724 posts

301 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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crankedup said:
No real news today then.
Not sure why you posted this?
Are you suggesting that research suggesting it would be possible to save up to 16000 patients lives per year by encouraging NHS staff to do their job properly and holding them to account is not news worthy?

dbdb

5,248 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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andymadmak said:
crankedup said:
No real news today then.
Not sure why you posted this?
Are you suggesting that research suggesting it would be possible to save up to 16000 patients lives per year by encouraging NHS staff to do their job properly and holding them to account is not news worthy?
I think a lot of people are complacent about NHS standards since they don't grasp just how bad NHS care can be. Until I had the misfortune to see it directly I had no concept of it myself. Sadly I learned the hard way. Between 2003 and 2008 nearly five thousand NHS patients died from bedsores. If I hadn't seen how poor nursing often is, I would find that figure astonishing.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

293 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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This should be good, you just cant go about telling some straight facts on here, the NHS can never be critisised you know.....

andymadmak

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15,724 posts

301 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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Mojocvh said:
This should be good, you just cant go about telling some straight facts on here, the NHS can never be critisised you know.....
bangheadnuts

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

293 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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andymadmak said:
Mojocvh said:
This should be good, you just cant go about telling some straight facts on here, the NHS can never be critisised you know.....
bangheadnuts
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