Should General Election voting be mandatory.
Should General Election voting be mandatory.
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crankedup

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25,764 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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As the title, should it be mandatory for every person eligible to vote? In view of the statistics for turnout it must surely be coming close to legislation in the U.K.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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If only there is a non of the above option

Megaflow

11,589 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
If only there is a non of the above option
Beat me to it. You cannot make mandatory until there is an option for the people who want to vote, but have nobody to vote for. I bet there is a big difference between voter apathy and people who won't to make a vote of no confidence in the whole system.

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Shouldn't this be a poll?

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Megaflow said:
thinfourth2 said:
If only there is a non of the above option
Beat me to it. You cannot make mandatory until there is an option for the people who want to vote, but have nobody to vote for. I bet there is a big difference between voter apathy and people who won't to make a vote of no confidence in the whole system.
Can't see a problem with it being compulsory if the above is also put in place.

I remember listening to someone talks about the Australian system where it is compulsory and more people take an interest in the politics as a result.

nelly1

5,666 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Bing o said:
Shouldn't this be a poll?
Only if it's mandatory wink

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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I am in the camp of making it mandatory. For many years I have said to people that if they don't vote they shouldn't complain.

Should it only be so if there were an option of None of the Above? Not sure but I think that perhaps we should start with that with a view to reviewing the state of play in 3 GE's time to accurately reflect the way it is working in practice and to see if the general public has actually started to think beyond where their next can of 8 Ace is coming from.

Notwithstanding what I have written I feel that it is just, if not more, important to get people to vote in Local Elections. To the point where I would consider making it mandatory there first before rolling it out to GEs. At the end of the day it will be easier to get the apathetic to consider what affects them locally first before asking them to look at the bigger picture.

One way I have considered of dealing with the issue though is that at 18 everyone gets a vote. If you fail to use that vote more than twice in 10 years then you lose your right to vote. There would obviously have to be some sort of appeal process available but it should be very tightly controlled.

It angers me to know that there are so many people out there who can’t be bothered to utilise a right which has cost the lives of many, many thousands, if not millions, of our kinsfolk to win.



phumy

5,828 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Is mandatory democratic?

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

199 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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phumy said:
Is mandatory democratic?
Precisely, mandatory voting is election by dictatorship.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Why should I be forced to take part in a process that has been proven not to work?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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plasticpig said:
Why should I be forced to take part in a process that has been proven not to work?
I would argue that it does work, the only times it has been questionable as to if it has or not is when there has been a low turn out.

otolith

69,357 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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It's always a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/sp_vid_154...

I wouldn't personally object to compulsory voting so long as I got the option of rejecting all the candidates if I don't want any of them, but I don't see the point in compelling people who don't feel able to make an informed choice to vote. I don't have any problem with allowing the stupid and the apathetic to disenfranchise themselves, in fact I think it's probably for the best that they do.

Puggit

49,821 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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The only vote that matters if to the EU commission, but we don't get to vote on that...

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Some of us don't want representative democracy, why should be forced to prop up a failing system, whose popularity is decreasing?

None of the above simply rejects the candidates not the system.

Edited by Fittster on Wednesday 18th May 11:11

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Cheese Mechanic said:
election by dictatorship.
What do you mean by that exactly? The phrase doesnt really make sense.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Cheese Mechanic said:
phumy said:
Is mandatory democratic?
Precisely, mandatory voting is election by dictatorship.
No more so than it is undemocratic to have to educate your children or pass a test to drive a car.

Very tired phrase but with rights come responsibilities. If people are too bone idle to be bothered to get off their arse once a year or less for an hour of their time to indicated how they would like their Local services or Country run then I would rather they be ignored totally.

I for one am fed up of being held to ransom by the apathy of others who then have the bare faced cheek to complain when they don't get what they want and who often force the policies people supported and voted to be watered down or shelved.

You had you chance to have your say, you chose to sit at home and pick your nose at that time so why the hell should others who bothered to make their statement be subject to your Johnny Come Lately sudden realisation that voting was actually more important than Real A&E or whatever.

Quite simply vote or either put up and shut up or fk off somewhere else where you don't have the chance to have your say.

(Please note that this post isn't aimed at any poster but at the general opinions stated.)

otolith

69,357 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Seems to me that it would be simpler for you to tell them to shut the fk up than to force them to vote, with the added bonus that they won't get whatever it is that they want and you don't.

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

289 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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Whilst I think there are better (more democratic) ways of increasing turnout if mandatory voting be introduced it should only be for those that can manage an average IQ or similar test.

Laurel Green

31,200 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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No, but, there should be some sort of IQ test before being allowed to vote.

sinizter

3,348 posts

216 months

Wednesday 18th May 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
If only there is a non of the above option
This.