Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
Discussion
coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke' ... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.
carlo996 said:
coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke' ... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.
coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke' ... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.

coldel said:
It wasnt pointed at you directly. More that the reality of it is that he has a speech writing team, probably wrote it days ago, had multiple versions, they picked one. This hasn't come from the Sunak heart nor are the words carrying any weight because of his actions over the last 12 months or so, because the speech doesn't tally up with that.
None of them write their own speeches, or their own campaigns etc. This was a carefully crafted speech which he has delivered well. Let's face it, he is on the market now to land a plum job, it's not like he is going to be edgy 
https://youtu.be/g4Mt2oHKwis?si=5zHJzNlzW1V4fG2g
Good speech, as was his earlier one.
Not as good as Eldar's puns though.
Good speech, as was his earlier one.
Not as good as Eldar's puns though.

Wombat3 said:
Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
The only logical explanation I can think of was that there was some kind of plot to remove him from within the Tory party so he hit the self-destruct button.
eldar said:
Rufus Stone said:
anonymoususer said:
Never mentioned it but with everything seemingly on the up and looking rosy perhaps he didn't feel the need amongst the triumphs he listed
Triumphs? Did that last more than 15 seconds? 
Tom8 said:
Wombat3 said:
Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
The only logical explanation I can think of was that there was some kind of plot to remove him from within the Tory party so he hit the self-destruct button.
carlo996 said:
I'm not falling for anything, I didn't vote for him, I am just able to separate my dislike for his party and their antics, with someone making a speech leaving office. I believe he did what he, and his team thought best, and yes, it wasn't what was wanted. It's no deeper than that really.
of course you didnt vote for him, you couldnt, unless you live in his constituency ,Im not sure it makes much difference who is pm anyway, just vote for the best in your area, has always been my thinking, does the boss in downing street really make a difference to your day to day life, i think not so much, if we got rid of parliament and just kept local politicians, i bet nobody would notice for a while.
lets face it, they only have one pot of money, and tax will only ever go up, im in my 50s and never seen a meaningful tax cut ever.
i dont think the out going lot were deliberately bad, im sure they tried to do the best they could, as will the new lot.
here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.
richhead said:
of course you didnt vote for him, you couldnt, unless you live in his constituency ,
Im not sure it makes much difference who is pm anyway, just vote for the best in your area, has always been my thinking, does the boss in downing street really make a difference to your day to day life, i think not so much, if we got rid of parliament and just kept local politicians, i bet nobody would notice for a while.
lets face it, they only have one pot of money, and tax will only ever go up, im in my 50s and never seen a meaningful tax cut ever.
i dont think the out going lot were deliberately bad, im sure they tried to do the best they could, as will the new lot.
here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.
It does make a difference who is in Downing Street. Always has. They set direction and national policy on the tiny things like tax, defence, health, education, foreign policy. Im not sure it makes much difference who is pm anyway, just vote for the best in your area, has always been my thinking, does the boss in downing street really make a difference to your day to day life, i think not so much, if we got rid of parliament and just kept local politicians, i bet nobody would notice for a while.
lets face it, they only have one pot of money, and tax will only ever go up, im in my 50s and never seen a meaningful tax cut ever.
i dont think the out going lot were deliberately bad, im sure they tried to do the best they could, as will the new lot.
here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.
PositronicRay said:
eldar said:
Rufus Stone said:
anonymoususer said:
Never mentioned it but with everything seemingly on the up and looking rosy perhaps he didn't feel the need amongst the triumphs he listed
Triumphs? Did that last more than 15 seconds? 
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