Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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carlo996

6,815 posts

36 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke'

... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.
I'm not falling for anything, I didn't vote for him, I am just able to separate my dislike for his party and their antics, with someone making a speech leaving office. I believe he did what he, and his team thought best, and yes, it wasn't what was wanted. It's no deeper than that really.

coldel

9,000 posts

161 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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carlo996 said:
coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke'

... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.
I'm not falling for anything, I didn't vote for him, I am just able to separate my dislike for his party and their antics, with someone making a speech leaving office. I believe he did what he, and his team thought best, and yes, it wasn't what was wanted. It's no deeper than that really.
It wasnt pointed at you directly. More that the reality of it is that he has a speech writing team, probably wrote it days ago, had multiple versions, they picked one. This hasn't come from the Sunak heart nor are the words carrying any weight because of his actions over the last 12 months or so, because the speech doesn't tally up with that.

768

16,591 posts

111 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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coldel said:
carlo996 said:
As poor a job as I thought he did, that was a good speech.
If ever there was a speech that attempted to reverse the psychology. You are all amazing, I am so terrible, I tried my best, but I love you all still, and this country is so great...perfectly written to get sympathy and people to think 'oh he wasnt such a bad bloke'

... just remember the policy ideas he was coming up with in the last 6 months, he signed off on all those, remember that. Dont fall for the sympathy seeking words of a speech written by a team behind the scenes.
I think there's some psychology that isn't down the speech writers, but something akin to the opposite of buyer's remorse. Hes-fked-off-relief or something.

carlo996

6,815 posts

36 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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coldel said:
It wasnt pointed at you directly. More that the reality of it is that he has a speech writing team, probably wrote it days ago, had multiple versions, they picked one. This hasn't come from the Sunak heart nor are the words carrying any weight because of his actions over the last 12 months or so, because the speech doesn't tally up with that.
None of them write their own speeches, or their own campaigns etc. This was a carefully crafted speech which he has delivered well. Let's face it, he is on the market now to land a plum job, it's not like he is going to be edgy wink

President Merkin

4,297 posts

34 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Not a patch on the greatest concesion speech of all time. Would have fitted Sunak too,


eldar

23,811 posts

211 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Rufus Stone said:
anonymoususer said:
Never mentioned it but with everything seemingly on the up and looking rosy perhaps he didn't feel the need amongst the triumphs he listed
Triumphs? Did that last more than 15 seconds? laugh
To the acclaim from the heralds?

BikeBikeBIke

11,639 posts

130 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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https://youtu.be/g4Mt2oHKwis?si=5zHJzNlzW1V4fG2g


Good speech, as was his earlier one.

Not as good as Eldar's puns though. biggrin

Jinx

11,769 posts

275 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?


Wombat3

13,582 posts

221 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
The only logical explanation I can think of was that there was some kind of plot to remove him from within the Tory party so he hit the self-destruct button.

Tom8

4,248 posts

169 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Wombat3 said:
Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
The only logical explanation I can think of was that there was some kind of plot to remove him from within the Tory party so he hit the self-destruct button.
That is all I can think of, he had had enough, or he knows some bad economic times coming so let labour in and see if they can be a one term government, but would any PM fall on their sword for the greater good? Maybe he just realised he was ste?

768

16,591 posts

111 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
Didn't want to miss another summer in Cali.

PositronicRay

28,032 posts

198 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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eldar said:
Rufus Stone said:
anonymoususer said:
Never mentioned it but with everything seemingly on the up and looking rosy perhaps he didn't feel the need amongst the triumphs he listed
Triumphs? Did that last more than 15 seconds? laugh
To the acclaim from the heralds?
I think you get the trophy.

Baroque attacks

5,683 posts

201 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Why was his wife dressed in Dazzle camouflage?

captain_cynic

15,108 posts

110 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Baroque attacks said:
Why was his wife dressed in Dazzle camouflage?
So German U Boats have difficulty determining her speed or heading

Wombat3

13,582 posts

221 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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Tom8 said:
Wombat3 said:
Jinx said:
So why did Rishi Sunak call the election when he did (could have held on until the end of the year)?
The only logical explanation I can think of was that there was some kind of plot to remove him from within the Tory party so he hit the self-destruct button.
That is all I can think of, he had had enough, or he knows some bad economic times coming so let labour in and see if they can be a one term government, but would any PM fall on their sword for the greater good? Maybe he just realised he was ste?
The other end of it is that parliament will convene on the 9th to elect the speaker, the Kings speech will not be till the 17th & then they will almost immediately head off for the summer recess till September, so there is unlikely to be much new legislation till then.

FMOB

1,994 posts

27 months

Friday 5th July 2024
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I assume he has booked his ticket to the US, has that green card burning a hole in his pocket.

ajprice

30,678 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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captain_cynic said:
Baroque attacks said:
Why was his wife dressed in Dazzle camouflage?
So German U Boats have difficulty determining her speed or heading
It's a QR code for a discount on Sky TV.

Or it's a new Ring movie.


richhead

2,446 posts

26 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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carlo996 said:
I'm not falling for anything, I didn't vote for him, I am just able to separate my dislike for his party and their antics, with someone making a speech leaving office. I believe he did what he, and his team thought best, and yes, it wasn't what was wanted. It's no deeper than that really.
of course you didnt vote for him, you couldnt, unless you live in his constituency ,
Im not sure it makes much difference who is pm anyway, just vote for the best in your area, has always been my thinking, does the boss in downing street really make a difference to your day to day life, i think not so much, if we got rid of parliament and just kept local politicians, i bet nobody would notice for a while.
lets face it, they only have one pot of money, and tax will only ever go up, im in my 50s and never seen a meaningful tax cut ever.
i dont think the out going lot were deliberately bad, im sure they tried to do the best they could, as will the new lot.
here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.

blueg33

41,054 posts

239 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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richhead said:
of course you didnt vote for him, you couldnt, unless you live in his constituency ,
Im not sure it makes much difference who is pm anyway, just vote for the best in your area, has always been my thinking, does the boss in downing street really make a difference to your day to day life, i think not so much, if we got rid of parliament and just kept local politicians, i bet nobody would notice for a while.
lets face it, they only have one pot of money, and tax will only ever go up, im in my 50s and never seen a meaningful tax cut ever.
i dont think the out going lot were deliberately bad, im sure they tried to do the best they could, as will the new lot.
here comes the new boss, same as the old boss.
It does make a difference who is in Downing Street. Always has. They set direction and national policy on the tiny things like tax, defence, health, education, foreign policy.

carlo996

6,815 posts

36 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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PositronicRay said:
eldar said:
Rufus Stone said:
anonymoususer said:
Never mentioned it but with everything seemingly on the up and looking rosy perhaps he didn't feel the need amongst the triumphs he listed
Triumphs? Did that last more than 15 seconds? laugh
To the acclaim from the heralds?
I think you get the trophy.
It’s a marathon, not a Sprint.