Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[Durzel]

I don't particularly care what happens in the GE as long as the Tories aren't in which is basically a certainty anyway, my own little GE is ousting Jacob Rees-Mogg - my local MP.

[carlo996]

valiant said:

Because more of the same is the way to go?

With FPTP, it’s a choice between Tories and labour. That’s it. So do you want a continuation of the stshow we’ve been living through for the past 14 years or a chance of something new?

Definitely don't want Labour in, couldn't bring myself to vote for that shower. It's a shame the Cons never got it together and voted Sunak out, I am genuinely surprised as he isn't very likable and it was clear a year ago where this was headed. Centre right still makes more sense to me, or even better a genuine middle ground, but apart from protest votes for Libs, who aren't credible, or Farage, who only gets votes from loonies and flip flop voters, what is there to do?

No, it's time to keep your heads down and ride out the storm or incoming 'it's all their fault' type statements when we get taxes hiked and government borrowing (a Labour trump card) increases. Hopefully then the purge of the utter rubbish in the conservative party will be complete, but it's of no great celebration..not even to the most vocal leftie. Whilst we celebrate the fact that Sunak and his disgusting colleagues are out, most, if not all will be quite content in private industry. Sunak himself will be laughing all the way to the bank, being on several boards and in high demand for his network. Lord Cameron, well, he'll just slink back under his stone taking the money....you see no matter what, these politicians...from Sunak to Johnson..from Blair to Clegg, from Scargill to Prestcott, from Livingstone to Balls.....they win. At our cost.

So it really doesn't matter, as none of them will ever be held to account either way.

[p1stonhead]

Do they honestly not realise how stupid they look latching onto a phrase which means literally nothing in UK politics?

Who is advising these clowns!

https://x.com/rishisunak/status/180838229822970289...

[turbobloke]

p1stonhead said:

Do they honestly not realise how stupid they look latching onto a phrase which means literally nothing in UK politics?

Who is advising these clowns!

Adviser clowns and consultant clowns. Politicians bring in the clowns,

[Bonefish Blues]

turbobloke said:

p1stonhead said:

Do they honestly not realise how stupid they look latching onto a phrase which means literally nothing in UK politics?

Who is advising these clowns!

Adviser clowns and consultant clowns. Politicians bring in the clowns,

Alistair Campbell was making the point on TRiP. Not sure it's stupid tactics if it's all they've got - certainly getting airtime, and everything else has failed hopelessly!

[thetapeworm]

Durzel said:

I don't particularly care what happens in the GE as long as the Tories aren't in which is basically a certainty anyway, my own little GE is ousting Jacob Rees-Mogg - my local MP.

I'm sad to say that's pretty much where I am too only with Andrea Jenkyns.

Annoyingly her losing won't see her disappear, she'll already have something lined up, either with GB News, Farage, another thing linked to Tufton St... your boy Ree-Mogg is probably an inspiration for her.

I'd hoped it would mean she could move down to Bristol so her son could grow up with her Conservative MP husband but apparently that marriage ended some time ago, maybe he found someone else to meet at railway stations?

Them losing their seats won't mean they lose their voices or their support but hopefully the noise diminishes over time.

[blueg33]

carlo996 said:

blueg33 said:

Recent behaviour is probably a better indicator than behaviour 20 years ago. How has the recent government behaved?

You mean like the selection scandal, the 200K paid to the Welsh Labour leader...not bad for an opposition party who have had to deliver nothing. You do understand the difference between the timeline of Labour scandals...and Labour being in power. If you use those maths you learnt at school you might just find the answer you seek

The point being Labour as a rancid as the current lot, and have the hidden loons ready and waiting to topple Starmer. That's if they haven't bankrupted us by the end of the first month.

Bankrupted us by the end of the first month? Do you remember a Tory PM called Truss? Or senior Tories that thought self imposed sanctions were a good plan.

I'm in London today, 2 meetings with major investors looking to ramp up their investment in UK projects if Labour get in. They see better economic stabilty and better growth potential. These are not small players, one has circa £10bn to deploy and is already a household name in the UK.

[Talksteer]

iphonedyou said:

blueg33 said:

£8k stake to win just over £1k doesn’t shout good judgement to me, even without the potential rule breaking.

If I told my investors they would get £1m for £8m invested with high risk they would be laughing for weeks.

Bit simplistic. Whether a 12.5% ROI within a few weeks is good or bad depends on the implied odds. The arbitrage opportunity dramatically increases with inside knowledge, of course, but it's often present to some extent for myriad reasons.

I bet £1000 on Obama to win in 2012 to get a £300 profit, the "insider" info then was the polling which showed that election wasn't even close (FFS the incumbent is incredibly charismatic) vs the media narrative pushing that there was a contest plus "fans" betting on what they wanted to happen.

I've never done it since because most people on betting markets have started reading polls and the contests have become more unstable.

[Panamax]

Durzel said:

I don't particularly care what happens in the GE as long as the Tories aren't in which is basically a certainty anyway, my own little GE is ousting Jacob Rees-Mogg.

You lucky people!

Well, they've already dragged up "King Boris" so perhaps "Lord Snooty" will be brought out later today!

[carlo996]

blueg33 said:

Bankrupted us by the end of the first month? Do you remember a Tory PM called Truss? Or senior Tories that thought self imposed sanctions were a good plan.

I'm in London today, 2 meetings with major investors looking to ramp up their investment in UK projects if Labour get in. They see better economic stabilty and better growth potential. These are not small players, one has circa £10bn to deploy and is already a household name in the UK.

Great, I hope for those who have jobs in the sector it does. At the end of the day all any investor wants is a better return, so not much skin in the game with politics.

[Yertis]

President Merkin said:

768 said:

President Merkin said:

How far we have fallen when the right depend on delirious predictions of the future...

Is this your first election?

Are you about to make some novel point about previous governments?

Funny how when you look at that from the reverse perspective, very few of you original thinkers were issuing urgent warnings about Cameron based on Major's limping stshow. And yet, here you all are now.

I'll read that as "yes".

[President Merkin]

Hmmm, pretty sure that would be 1987 but thanks for playing.

[blueg33]

carlo996 said:

blueg33 said:

Bankrupted us by the end of the first month? Do you remember a Tory PM called Truss? Or senior Tories that thought self imposed sanctions were a good plan.

I'm in London today, 2 meetings with major investors looking to ramp up their investment in UK projects if Labour get in. They see better economic stabilty and better growth potential. These are not small players, one has circa £10bn to deploy and is already a household name in the UK.

Great, I hope for those who have jobs in the sector it does. At the end of the day all any investor wants is a better return, so not much skin in the game with politics.

They do have skin in the game with politics as it directly impacts returns. Thats why they are coming forward now, not a year ago or 2 years ago etc.

[carlo996]

blueg33 said:

They do have skin in the game with politics as it directly impacts returns. Thats why they are coming forward now, not a year ago or 2 years ago etc.

It would be the same with any bounce. Obviously if the market looks better they want to invest and take the opportunity to make money. It's not a political move is it? Not like the Labour policies, which haven't even been deployed yet have made the difference.

[S600BSB]

anonymoususer said:

Rishi showing incisively in just one picture how the polls are moving in his favour and his optimism at getting a majority.

Apparently he has told some tv programme this morning that his favourite food is sandwiches - “I’m a big sandwich guy”. Where do the Cons find these people!

[hidetheelephants]

S600BSB said:

anonymoususer said:

Rishi showing incisively in just one picture how the polls are moving in his favour and his optimism at getting a majority.

Apparently he has told some tv programme this morning that his favourite food is sandwiches - “I’m a big sandwich guy”. Where do the Cons find these people!

"I like food, I eat it all the time."

[xeny]

carlo996 said:

Centre right still makes more sense to me, or even better a genuine middle ground,

To me, the existence of the Overton Window makes this rather meaningless.

I can see voting for policies you like, or competence, but specifying a place on the window on the full left-right scale that society happens to be presented with at present seems kind of arbitrary.

[Bonefish Blues]

S600BSB said:

anonymoususer said:

Rishi showing incisively in just one picture how the polls are moving in his favour and his optimism at getting a majority.

Apparently he has told some tv programme this morning that his favourite food is sandwiches - “I’m a big sandwich guy”. Where do the Cons find these people!

He's a man of the people - that's what people eat, so that's what Rishi eats.

[President Merkin]

He'll be eating a massive st sandwich at 10pm tomorrow.

[monkfish1]

blueg33 said:

carlo996 said:

blueg33 said:

Bankrupted us by the end of the first month? Do you remember a Tory PM called Truss? Or senior Tories that thought self imposed sanctions were a good plan.

I'm in London today, 2 meetings with major investors looking to ramp up their investment in UK projects if Labour get in. They see better economic stabilty and better growth potential. These are not small players, one has circa £10bn to deploy and is already a household name in the UK.

Great, I hope for those who have jobs in the sector it does. At the end of the day all any investor wants is a better return, so not much skin in the game with politics.

They do have skin in the game with politics as it directly impacts returns. Thats why they are coming forward now, not a year ago or 2 years ago etc.

I suspect they will be disappointed. Continued decline and more of the same is inevitable, though im sure there will be a few "winners" at other peoples expense.