45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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Byker28i

75,018 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Byker28i said:
Mark Hamill
If you're not familiar with Project 2025, now is the time to understand what's in store for this country if the #GOP wins in November. You can be justifiably afraid or much more motivated to VOTE. This thread helps explain why:
https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/180750180038...

Project 2025 broken down
https://twitter.com/GalvinAlmanza/status/180719576...
Mark Hamill once again proving he will say anything for a dollar, Project 2025 is nothing to do with, and is not endorsed by Trump.

Scary stuff, but just some think tank fantasy as you’ve been told many many times.
And yet it's not, as you've been told many times and trying to do a trump and just claim something false many times, doesn't make it true.

In fact the Heritage Foundation claimed credit for a a large number of trump policy proposals in his first term, based on the group’s 2017 version of the Mandate for Leadership. The group calculated that 64% of its policy recommendations were implemented or proposed by trump in some way during his first year in office.
https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administrati...

and he's tried it before. Near the end of his last term trump issued an executive order making it possible for him to fire tens of thousands of civil servants, that he felt were disloyal and replace them with lackeys, Schedule F.
https://protectdemocracy.org/work/trumps-schedule-...

and he's even been admitting it
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-...

Besides running to kill prosecutions against him, or run out the clock, he's also several times said he will use the full force of the govt, weaponise it again, against those he perceives as his enemies
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/us/trump-retrib...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/tr...
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investig...

I could keep going as he says it every rally for two years


What is it about the ultimate conman, thief, rapist, multiple sexual assaulter, convicted felon, multiple bankrupt - both financially and morally etc that you admire so much?

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 1st July 09:21

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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captain_cynic said:
You should be worried.

Have you tried reading what he writes instead of just attacking him?

You might find out.just how bad the person you're defending is.

Nah, that would just be sensible and "not" Trump supporters don'ts do sensible.
I’ve got a theory on what’s happening with all the stposting. The right wingers who are also, very tough and super patriots are about to see their beloved party wiped out in the UK, so are desperately posting on here to compensate and show they’re still well ‘are and that they can pick a winner to stick it to the libtards, or some other derogatory childish phrase. It’s important for them to be seen to be considerably more right wing than yow.

Byker28i

75,018 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Opinion piece

Let's face it: Our presidential choice is between a racist, sexist, lying, fascist amoeba, or a stuttering old man who nevertheless supports policies to protect women's health, the environment and public education; a warrior against corporate collusion to raise prices, drive down wages and slash regulations that protect the safety of everything from the drugs we depend on to the food we eat.

Is that really a choice?

But for many Americans, it’s so much easier to support the liar who feeds the myth that he alone can fix the nation’s problems — of course, what Trump claims he is going to fix, he never fixes, and ironically, the reason so much is broke, is because he broke it.
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/joe-bide...

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Byker28i said:
thatsprettyshady said:
Byker28i said:
Mark Hamill
If you're not familiar with Project 2025, now is the time to understand what's in store for this country if the #GOP wins in November. You can be justifiably afraid or much more motivated to VOTE. This thread helps explain why:
https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/180750180038...

Project 2025 broken down
https://twitter.com/GalvinAlmanza/status/180719576...
Mark Hamill once again proving he will say anything for a dollar, Project 2025 is nothing to do with, and is not endorsed by Trump.

Scary stuff, but just some think tank fantasy as you’ve been told many many times.
And yet it's not, as you've been told many times and trying to do a trump and just claim something false many times, doesn't make it true.

In fact the Heritage Foundation claimed credit for a a large number of trump policy proposals in his first term, based on the group’s 2017 version of the Mandate for Leadership. The group calculated that 64% of its policy recommendations were implemented or proposed by trump in some way during his first year in office.
https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administrati...

and he's tried it before. Near the end of his last term trump issued an executive order making it possible for him to fire tens of thousands of civil servants, that he felt were disloyal and replace them with lackeys, Schedule F.
https://protectdemocracy.org/work/trumps-schedule-...

and he's even been admitting it
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-...

Besides running to kill prosecutions against him, or run out the clock, he's also several times said he will use the full force of the govt, weaponise it again, against those he perceives as his enemies
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/us/trump-retrib...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/tr...
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investig...

I could keep going as he says it every rally for two years


What is it about the ultimate conman, thief, rapist, multiple sexual assaulter, convicted felon, multiple bankrupt - both financially and morally etc that you admire so much?

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 1st July 09:21
Adopting a few similar (pretty generic) policies to a conservative think tank isn’t the same as endorsing or supporting it outright, the way Project 2025 has been framed by certain people (mostly celebrities) is that it’s some sort of Trump manifesto which it is clearly not. Can you find me a single piece of evidence that Trump (or his campaign) has actively endorsed Project 2025? Remember, having a few policies that are similar doesn’t count.

RustyMX5

8,630 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Byker28i said:
Opinion piece

Let's face it: Our presidential choice is between a racist, sexist, lying, fascist amoeba, or a stuttering old man who nevertheless supports policies to protect women's health, the environment and public education; a warrior against corporate collusion to raise prices, drive down wages and slash regulations that protect the safety of everything from the drugs we depend on to the food we eat.

Is that really a choice?

But for many Americans, it’s so much easier to support the liar who feeds the myth that he alone can fix the nation’s problems — of course, what Trump claims he is going to fix, he never fixes, and ironically, the reason so much is broke, is because he broke it.
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/joe-bide...
And therein lies the one of the many paradoxes of Trump. Despite everything that's bad about him, somehow he seems to have connected with people on a more personal level than Biden.

Double Fault

1,405 posts

278 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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RustyMX5 said:
somehow he seems to have connected with people on a more personal level than Biden.
Indeed....and how depressing is that.

g4ry13

19,550 posts

270 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Bloody hell! We have actresses and Luke Skywalker himself as voices of authority.

It's really getting a bit pathetic some of the sources cited in here.

skwdenyer

18,245 posts

255 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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RustyMX5 said:
And therein lies the one of the many paradoxes of Trump. Despite everything that's bad about him, somehow he seems to have connected with people on a more personal level than Biden.
The problem with “the American dream” is that so many now believe it is their birthright, not an aspiration to justify hard work. Trump is telling them their birthright has been stolen, that he can return it. Just like Farage’s pitch, or Le Pen’s.

Whoozit

3,847 posts

284 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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g4ry13 said:
Bloody hell! We have actresses and Luke Skywalker himself as voices of authority.

It's really getting a bit pathetic some of the sources cited in here.
Oh ok. Are Anthony Scaramucci and Katty Kay suitably well credentialled? Here's their take on Project 2025. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6rrhRjEViFQilAWmK...

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Adopting a few similar (pretty generic) policies to a conservative think tank isn’t the same as endorsing or supporting it outright, the way Project 2025 has been framed by certain people (mostly celebrities) is that it’s some sort of Trump manifesto which it is clearly not. Can you find me a single piece of evidence that Trump (or his campaign) has actively endorsed Project 2025? Remember, having a few policies that are similar doesn’t count.
Schedule F is the start of it. He introduced that in October 2020 via Exec Order, but Biden rightly killed it. Trump has stated explicitly that he will reinstate Schedule F on Day one of any new Presidency.

Agenda 47 is Project 2025 and Project 2025 is Agenda 47. He isn’t returning anything to the American people, he is removing any and all potential blockers to his creation of a dictatorship.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-pre...

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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LF5335 said:
Schedule F is the start of it. He introduced that in October 2020 via Exec Order, but Biden rightly killed it. Trump has stated explicitly that he will reinstate Schedule F on Day one of any new Presidency.

Agenda 47 is Project 2025 and Project 2025 is Agenda 47. He isn’t returning anything to the American people, he is removing any and all potential blockers to his creation of a dictatorship.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-pre...
-Stopping officials from taking jobs at the companies they oversee
- move more federal agencies out of Washington
- term limits on congressmen
- independent agency to make sure federal agencies are not spying or running disinformation campaigns against citizens
- let the president fire terrible employees


Stop! Stop! I can’t take anymore of these ruthless actions of a dictator!

Edited by thatsprettyshady on Monday 1st July 11:26

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
-Stopping officials from taking jobs at the companies they oversee
- move more federal agencies out of Washington
- term limits on congressmen
- independent agency to make sure federal agencies are not spying or running disinformation campaigns against citizens
- let the president fire terrible employees


Stop! Stop! I can’t take anymore of these ruthless actions of a dictator!
Ah right, pick the ones that suit and claim they’re at face value. There were 10 points in Agenda 47, not just the 4 you’ve (poorly) cherry picked

Term limits, so change the constitution the way he wants it. Then remove term limits elsewhere with another change to the Constitution.

Independent agency. In other words. Set up his own Truth and Reconciliation agency to ensure nobody is saying anything bad about him. He even has a little rant about the “anti-Trump narrative”

Schedule F is not about firing terrible employees. It is about removing people in jobs that require expertise and are non-political and replacing them with his lackeys.

Of course, none of that matters to you. It’s all about sticking it to the wokerati or libtards or some other childish comment.

Superflow

1,602 posts

147 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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captain_cynic said:
Superflow said:
Oh it’s you!

The ghost of the Trump thread I see you’re still haunting the placelaugh

You sound worried.
You should be worried.

Have you tried reading what he writes instead of just attacking him?

You might find out.just how bad the person you're defending is.

Nah, that would just be sensible and "not" Trump supporters don'ts do sensible.
Not attacking him.

Just poking fun that he’s still here raging years later!

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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LF5335 said:
thatsprettyshady said:
-Stopping officials from taking jobs at the companies they oversee
- move more federal agencies out of Washington
- term limits on congressmen
- independent agency to make sure federal agencies are not spying or running disinformation campaigns against citizens
- let the president fire terrible employees


Stop! Stop! I can’t take anymore of these ruthless actions of a dictator!
Ah right, pick the ones that suit and claim they’re at face value. There were 10 points in Agenda 47, not just the 4 you’ve (poorly) cherry picked

Term limits, so change the constitution the way he wants it. Then remove term limits elsewhere with another change to the Constitution.

Independent agency. In other words. Set up his own Truth and Reconciliation agency to ensure nobody is saying anything bad about him. He even has a little rant about the “anti-Trump narrative”

Schedule F is not about firing terrible employees. It is about removing people in jobs that require expertise and are non-political and replacing them with his lackeys.

Of course, none of that matters to you. It’s all about sticking it to the wokerati or libtards or some other childish comment.
Okay so you’ve taken his actual policies and extrapolated out a doomsday scenario based on nothing at all, just seemingly feelings.

Where have I once talked about “libtards” or “wokerati”?

Why are you so keen to make things personal, I’ve not done that to you? I’d rather we kept things about the subject rather than resorting to ad homs.

LF5335

7,443 posts

58 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
Okay so you’ve taken his actual policies and extrapolated out a doomsday scenario based on nothing at all, just seemingly feelings.

Where have I once talked about “libtards” or “wokerati”?

Why are you so keen to make things personal, I’ve not done that to you? I’d rather we kept things about the subject rather than resorting to ad homs.
You wanted some evidence that Trump is endorsing Project 2025. I gave you his Agenda 47, which mirrors many of their policies. I also showed you Schedule F, that he signed in via an Exec Order right at the end of his Presidency, but was rightly killed by Biden in his early days in office. You’ve skirted over this, put your fingers in your ears and pretended that it’s an innocuous set of,plans, that are just really good for the US.

Wonder why I reply like I do to you?

thatsprettyshady

4,579 posts

180 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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LF5335 said:
You wanted some evidence that Trump is endorsing Project 2025. I gave you his Agenda 47, which mirrors many of their policies. I also showed you Schedule F, that he signed in via an Exec Order right at the end of his Presidency, but was rightly killed by Biden in his early days in office. You’ve skirted over this, put your fingers in your ears and pretended that it’s an innocuous set of,plans, that are just really good for the US.

Wonder why I reply like I do to you?
We’ve both given our opinion on things, we both disagree with each other so let’s leave it there.

Mortarboard

9,721 posts

70 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Remember when roe vs wade was "settled law?

I do. Fun times.

And ivf and women's Healthcare were the collateral damage when that got scrapped.

Conpulsory teaching of the Bible, in history lessons is the latest wheeze.

Don't be surprised if up next is a certain amount of discrimination against minorities for "personal religious reasons"

That's the gop way of today.

M.

Byker28i

75,018 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Marge is still trying to be relevant, having a rant on Bannon going to jail
https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1807586485513711838


Byker28i

75,018 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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Then trump showing again he doesn't like strong women...

Peloise said to Jen Psaki about trump, "How can you have a legitimate debate when somebody is totally lying? You have to completely dispel their falsehoods. This guy is old. He doesn’t have a stream of thought that's logical. And nobody says anything about that — that he can be so disassociated from the facts.”

as trump had tried to blame her again for his insurrection attempt

That set trump off

Byker28i

75,018 posts

232 months

Monday 1st July 2024
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thatsprettyshady said:
LF5335 said:
You wanted some evidence that Trump is endorsing Project 2025. I gave you his Agenda 47, which mirrors many of their policies. I also showed you Schedule F, that he signed in via an Exec Order right at the end of his Presidency, but was rightly killed by Biden in his early days in office. You’ve skirted over this, put your fingers in your ears and pretended that it’s an innocuous set of,plans, that are just really good for the US.

Wonder why I reply like I do to you?
We’ve both given our opinion on things, we both disagree with each other so let’s leave it there.
The trouble is, we disprove what you say, give you evidence, and you disagree and thats it...

trump is only out for himself, no-one else. He's offered to sell us policy for personal profit, prepared to change it if people give him money.
Rather like he was selling pardons...

He's numerous times said he will weaponise govt departments for revenge against those he feels wronged him - as he did before

These are his promises...

as per the opinion piece
"Let's face it: Our presidential choice is between a racist, sexist, lying, fascist amoeba, or a stuttering old man who nevertheless supports policies to protect women's health, the environment and public education; a warrior against corporate collusion to raise prices, drive down wages and slash regulations that protect the safety of everything from the drugs we depend on to the food we eat.

Is that really a choice?"

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 1st July 13:44

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