Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

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Baroque attacks said:

Careful now, comparing revenue with profit between competitors.

If you knew what you were talking about, you would realise with Tesla's estimated gross margin on the Cybertruck, revenue is mostly what counts. Whereas with Ford's EV figures (revenue, net margin, gross margin etc) their EV figures are a bin fire.

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rscott said:

Not much of a premium on used CT - https://carsandbids.com/search/tesla/cybertruck?cs...

Cyberbeast Foundation edition is approx $120k new and only selling for $135k . Of course, that comes with FSD as standard. Well, sort of - it comes with a promise that FSD will arrive at some point in the future at some unspecified date..

Wonder when they'll manage to produce wheel covers which don't destroy the tyres ?

It’s actually worse than that. Just checked on Autotempest and there are well over 200 for sale and prices start at just over $100k for a few thousand miles example. When you factor in that most of these are for sale through dealers, the auction prices are below this. Cars and Bids have some records of sales and dual motor foundation editions are getting sold for $105k-$110k, so just over their list price of $100k (excluding big tires that they might have paid extra for). It’s been mentioned several times that wholesale auction prices are well under $100k now.

Dealers can typically sit on a car for a while and have it up at a higher price, but they arent selling so it’s only a matter of time before they come down. Impressive as it is that it is still in demand even after 11,000+ sales, but the days of them going for $120k retail are gone.

Lots of reports of people just walking into a Tesla sales location and changing their order to match something in stock and then getting a VIN within 20 mins (i.e. the system matches it for them and gets them one). So why would you pay over at a dealer when you can walk up and make a few clicks and get a brand new one?

Also, we have to factor in what is happening. Foundation series options are ending in the next quarter and there are deliveries of the normal ones happening now. $20k for FSD and a bunch of non-existent options doesnt make sense, so I can see buyers just waiting for the cheaper model. Then there is the availability of the mass market one - the RWD model. I can see a lot of prospective buyers just waiting, skipping the Foundation series and getting the RWD one next year. Lots of factors and if you over paid for a Cybertruck, I am sorry.

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thatsprettyshady said:

This is the same thing that was played when Linus Tech Tips was hacked, always the same thing. Hijack a million+ sub channel and scam away with the Musk AI.

Ah yes, I was trying to remember the other high profile account this happened to recently.

Given with this one the channel belonged to a major Australian news network so you'd think they'd have reported it pretty sharpish but the streams were up for five hours, had a peak of 45,000 views and made it into the YouTube Live recommendations. That's an extraordinarily poor response from YouTube.

Ugh, the continuing ensttification of the internet.