Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[Dave200]

the-photographer said:

PurplePenguin said:

Dave200 said:

the-photographer said:

PurplePenguin said:

Tiny percentage which is compounding year on year

at the end of March 2024, the number of asylum cases awaiting an initial decision (86,460 cases, relating to 118,329 people) was more than one-third (35%) lower than at the end of March 2023

So not "compounding"?

If anything, I'd say it was "reducing".

Reducing for those particular year on year figures.

All this stuff is in the public domain

Yes, but we all know that unless Nige the Liar says it, then it's not considered 'fact'.

[smn159]

bhstewie said:

Dagnir said:

I was pointing out that just because it's existing legislation that gives you 'rights', doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing.

Which of the rights the EHCR gives me is a bad thing for me?

Rights are bad if they give protection to people that ‘we’ don’t like, obvs.

[Dave200]

chrispmartha said:

What are you going on about then?

You're asking a lot for an answer to that one.

He's dug himself so far in the hole defending Reform that he's actually forgotten why he started digging.

[chrispmartha]

119 said:

chrispmartha said:

PurplePenguin said:

President Merkin said:

PurplePenguin said:

No. I have taken a different position to you. Your opinion is just a different position to mine.
Your “pelters” are no more than farts in the wind to me

Your continued presence & customary retreat into coarseness suggest otherwise. I would still like you to square the circle of your blind faith in government to perpetually do the right thing & the legal fiction that Rwanda is a safe country.

Arguably, the last government is Disneyland as compared to Farage, you will struggle to put together a reasoned argument I suspect, so I doubt you will try.

I think your own coarse and derogatory language doesn’t really give you the moral high ground.

I think the last government was a st show - maybe Labour will be different but past performance unfortunately is an indicator of future performance - hopefully it will be different this time.

I don’t recall commenting personally on Rwanda etc

Erm past performance? The last Labour government was actually processing the claims in an efficient manner go look at the data

And how many were turning up on the shores 14 years ago?

Try 2002 the most asylum applications weve had

[Dave200]

It makes me laugh when Reform supporters get all uppity about any criticism, and cite their "right to an opinion".

You're not being mocked for the opinion you hold.

You're being mocked because of the complete lack of critical thinking that has gone into forming that opinion.

Anyone is entitled to hold any opinion. If you can't back yours up appropriately, expect to be called out on it.

Edited by Dave200 on Monday 8th July 20:20

[272BHP]

Dave200 said:

It makes me laugh when Reform supporters get all uppity about any criticism, and cite their "right to an opinion".

You're not being mocked for the opinion you hold.

You're being mocked because of the complete lack of critical thinking that has gone into forming that opinion.

Anyone is entitled to hold any opinion. If you can't back yours up appropriately, expect to be called out on it.

Edited by Dave200 on Monday 8th July 20:20

I find that blisteringly ironic coming from you Dave.

[119]

Dave200 said:

It makes me laugh when Reform supporters get all uppity about any criticism, and cite their "right to an opinion".

You're not being mocked for the opinion you hold.

You're being mocked because of the complete lack of critical thinking that has gone into forming that opinion.

Anyone is entitled to hold any opinion. If you can't back yours up appropriately, expect to be called out on it.

Edited by Dave200 on Monday 8th July 20:20

Who are these Reform supporters in the forum you speak of?

I assume there are very few.

[Mortarboard]

119 said:

Who are these Reform supporters in the forum you speak of?

I assume there are very few.

About 30%, from the voting intentions poll.



M.

[119]

chrispmartha said:

119 said:

chrispmartha said:

PurplePenguin said:

President Merkin said:

PurplePenguin said:

No. I have taken a different position to you. Your opinion is just a different position to mine.
Your “pelters” are no more than farts in the wind to me

Your continued presence & customary retreat into coarseness suggest otherwise. I would still like you to square the circle of your blind faith in government to perpetually do the right thing & the legal fiction that Rwanda is a safe country.

Arguably, the last government is Disneyland as compared to Farage, you will struggle to put together a reasoned argument I suspect, so I doubt you will try.

I think your own coarse and derogatory language doesn’t really give you the moral high ground.

I think the last government was a st show - maybe Labour will be different but past performance unfortunately is an indicator of future performance - hopefully it will be different this time.

I don’t recall commenting personally on Rwanda etc

Erm past performance? The last Labour government was actually processing the claims in an efficient manner go look at the data

And how many were turning up on the shores 14 years ago?

Try 2002 the most asylum applications weve had

fking hell.

Isn’t that the year Blair launched his ‘managed migration’ policy.

[119]

Mortarboard said:

119 said:

Who are these Reform supporters in the forum you speak of?

I assume there are very few.

About 30%, from the voting intentions poll.



M.

Perhaps I should have said ‘active’!

[chrispmartha]

119 said:

chrispmartha said:

119 said:

chrispmartha said:

PurplePenguin said:

President Merkin said:

PurplePenguin said:

No. I have taken a different position to you. Your opinion is just a different position to mine.
Your “pelters” are no more than farts in the wind to me

Your continued presence & customary retreat into coarseness suggest otherwise. I would still like you to square the circle of your blind faith in government to perpetually do the right thing & the legal fiction that Rwanda is a safe country.

Arguably, the last government is Disneyland as compared to Farage, you will struggle to put together a reasoned argument I suspect, so I doubt you will try.

I think your own coarse and derogatory language doesn’t really give you the moral high ground.

I think the last government was a st show - maybe Labour will be different but past performance unfortunately is an indicator of future performance - hopefully it will be different this time.

I don’t recall commenting personally on Rwanda etc

Erm past performance? The last Labour government was actually processing the claims in an efficient manner go look at the data

And how many were turning up on the shores 14 years ago?

Try 2002 the most asylum applications weve had

fking hell.

Isn’t that the year Blair launched his ‘managed migration’ policy.

Maybe so, the numbers then declined, and do did processing times, they then both rose from 2010 onwards

[Mortarboard]

119 said:

Perhaps I should have said ‘active’!

Thought we weren't allowed insinuate reform voters are old codgers, predominantly?



M.

[p1stonhead]

Any Reform lot wanna become an economic migrant?

[OutInTheShed]

p1stonhead said:

Any Reform lot wanna become an economic migrant?

They don't say there's much shagging?

[chrispmartha]

Didn’t have this one on the reform bingo card I must admit!

[p1stonhead]

chrispmartha said:

Didn’t have this one on the reform bingo card I must admit!

Surely that can’t be a stunt you could possibly pull off? Isn’t there any sort of actual ID check to become a candidate like you even need to vote these days?

Imagine losing to a fake AI candidate.

[Vanden Saab]

chrispmartha said:

Didn’t have this one on the reform bingo card I must admit!

He was on GB News earlier. Don't tell me you were actually taken in by it. Oh my.

[RSTurboPaul]

p1stonhead said:

Any Reform lot wanna become an economic migrant?

Small issue with those options pictured being Australia turned itself into a prison island with mandatory medical procedures during Covid, Italy stopped people working and earning money unless they conformed to specified medical procedures, and France now has laws that mean you can't criticise or object to 'the party line' on health measures the Government implements without risk of massive fines (or worse IIRC)... so the question is, do you trust them not to do it again next time?

[chrispmartha]

Vanden Saab said:

chrispmartha said:

Didn’t have this one on the reform bingo card I must admit!

He was on GB News earlier. Don't tell me you were actually taken in by it. Oh my.

Taken in by what?

The article was about them having to prove they were real. It even says they have spoken to him. It also wasn’t just about him

[768]

I'm sure it wasn't, it's usually about smearing the whole party regardless of the validity.