General Election July 2024
Discussion
Sway said:
coldel said:
The 2019 election was the brexit vote general election, along with the generally despised Corbyn, you could have put the wheelie bin from number 10 up for PM of the Tory party it would have won.
Corbyn got more people to put an X in the box than Starmer... Randy Winkman said:
Sway said:
coldel said:
The 2019 election was the brexit vote general election, along with the generally despised Corbyn, you could have put the wheelie bin from number 10 up for PM of the Tory party it would have won.
Corbyn got more people to put an X in the box than Starmer... Yes, comparing numbers like for like is just not apples and apples.
Sway said:
coldel said:
The 2019 election was the brexit vote general election, along with the generally despised Corbyn, you could have put the wheelie bin from number 10 up for PM of the Tory party it would have won.
Corbyn got more people to put an X in the box than Starmer... I know loads who did. It was a straight shootout Lib Dem vs Conservative round my way for example.
This was a pure anti Tory election.
p1stonhead said:
How many millions voted tactically for Lib Dem though?
I know loads who did. It was a straight shootout Lib Dem vs Conservative round my way for example.
This was a pure anti Tory election.
Totally, if I lived a mile north it would have been a tactical Lib Dem vote, although I'm not certain, as Lib Dems are currently less in line with my politics.I know loads who did. It was a straight shootout Lib Dem vs Conservative round my way for example.
This was a pure anti Tory election.
As it was, it was a Tory/Labour shootout here, with 3 recounts and a majority of a mere 18 votes.
Solocle said:
Totally, if I lived a mile north it would have been a tactical Lib Dem vote, although I'm not certain, as Lib Dems are currently less in line with my politics.
As it was, it was a Tory/Labour shootout here, with 3 recounts and a majority of a mere 18 votes.
Its amazing how close these can be, had it happen in my old place a few years back it was something like 40 votes difference out of tens of thousands...good lesson for those that cant be bothered to get up and vote, it can and will count!As it was, it was a Tory/Labour shootout here, with 3 recounts and a majority of a mere 18 votes.
Digga said:
Castrol for a knave said:
On a lighter note.
Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
For me, Hoyle has been infinitely better than Bercow. It is a rare knack to have both gravitas and real humour.Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
What also struck me, watching the opening of Parliament and the PM and Sunak's speeches, is despite the culture wars and a few headbangers, Parliament is generally stocked with reasonable people. You could see that the way Abbott's and Leigh's speeches were received. Poles apart poltically but both raised a few laughs and approval on all sides.
Compare that to the US.
What we have to do, is avoid falling into a US style of government, which is wholly partisan and less about service and more about power and $$$. I'm not naive, but I think the UK generally has a service led government
Castrol for a knave said:
Digga said:
Castrol for a knave said:
On a lighter note.
Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
For me, Hoyle has been infinitely better than Bercow. It is a rare knack to have both gravitas and real humour.Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
What also struck me, watching the opening of Parliament and the PM and Sunak's speeches, is despite the culture wars and a few headbangers, Parliament is generally stocked with reasonable people. You could see that the way Abbott's and Leigh's speeches were received. Poles apart poltically but both raised a few laughs and approval on all sides.
Compare that to the US.
What we have to do, is avoid falling into a US style of government, which is wholly partisan and less about service and more about power and $$$. I'm not naive, but I think the UK generally has a service led government
Digga said:
Castrol for a knave said:
On a lighter note.
Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
For me, Hoyle has been infinitely better than Bercow. It is a rare knack to have both gravitas and real humour.Have a watch of Lindsay Hoyle's speech today and his re-election as Speaker
He has a career in stand up when he retires.
p1stonhead said:
Sway said:
coldel said:
The 2019 election was the brexit vote general election, along with the generally despised Corbyn, you could have put the wheelie bin from number 10 up for PM of the Tory party it would have won.
Corbyn got more people to put an X in the box than Starmer... I know loads who did. It was a straight shootout Lib Dem vs Conservative round my way for example.
This was a pure anti Tory election.
blueg33 said:
p1stonhead said:
Sway said:
coldel said:
The 2019 election was the brexit vote general election, along with the generally despised Corbyn, you could have put the wheelie bin from number 10 up for PM of the Tory party it would have won.
Corbyn got more people to put an X in the box than Starmer... I know loads who did. It was a straight shootout Lib Dem vs Conservative round my way for example.
This was a pure anti Tory election.
I voted tactically - I wouldn't have done under PR and I'm sure Im not alone
Unreal said:
One thing I like about the US system is the hearing system when they often rip the likes of Fauci or Zuckerberg a new one. Our committees never seem to make these people squirm and half the time they don't even appear.
You haven't watched the ones I have. Last year I remember seeing head of EA had a hole torn for not having any data or clue about numbers.Digga said:
You haven't watched the ones I have. Last year I remember seeing head of EA had a hole torn for not having any data or clue about numbers.
The issue I suppose is that more times than not, both here and in the US tbh, it simply because a chance for some grandstanding twerp of a politician to try to make things all about themselves rather than actually do anything that addresses the underlying issues and it just gets lost into the usual repulsive cycle of politicking.... Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff