Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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Imagine walking downstairs every morning to be confronted by Nippy's girning face.

No wonder Pete got distracted enough to make a few minor bookkeeping errors.

Though I am reminded of my colleague who made a home visit and found a framed picture of Nicola on the wall. Each to their own.

Now is the time to buy though. For some reason there is a sale on. Do they come with a free set of darts though?

https://www.redbubble.com/i/poster/nicola-sturgeon...

Master Of Puppets

3,657 posts

77 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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irc said:
Imagine walking downstairs every morning to be confronted by Nippy's girning face.

No wonder Pete got distracted enough to make a few minor bookkeeping errors.

Though I am reminded of my colleague who made a home visit and found a framed picture of Nicola on the wall. Each to their own.

Now is the time to buy though. For some reason there is a sale on. Do they come with a free set of darts though?

https://www.redbubble.com/i/poster/nicola-sturgeon...
Looks like they got the B and the R mixed up......Should be BedRubble. laugh


A much bigger laugh though... 9 seats. biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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And it's confirmed. LibDems take the last seat off the SNP. With 2000 majority.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqe6y0jvmrdo

Only a 9 seater minibus needed to travel to Westminster.

hidetheelephants

30,164 posts

208 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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Charles Kennedy's old seat is declared for the Lib Dems. 2,160 majority.

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Charles Kennedy's old seat is declared for the Lib Dems. 2,160 majority.
Presumably the humble crofter saw this coming when he decided to stand down

hiccy18

3,311 posts

82 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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irc said:
Only a 9 seater minibus needed to travel to Westminster.
Result! If one of them drives they don't need a PCV!

sherman

14,396 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hiccy18 said:
irc said:
Only a 9 seater minibus needed to travel to Westminster.
Result! If one of them drives they don't need a PCV!
This should fit their budget rofl

hiccy18

3,311 posts

82 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!

A.J.M

8,183 posts

201 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Charles Kennedy's old seat is declared for the Lib Dems. 2,160 majority.
Good.

Charles had his demons, but he was well respected.

The Crofter getting removed is a good result.

Jambo85

3,447 posts

103 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
rofl

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
I'm now cleaningcoffee off my keyboard!!

shtu

3,898 posts

161 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
rofl

Quality work.

cuprabob

16,673 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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Jambo85 said:
hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
rofl
Have another rofl

Composer62

2,127 posts

101 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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cuprabob said:
Jambo85 said:
hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
rofl
Have another rofl
+1

MaxFromage

2,355 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th July 2024
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hiccy18 said:
It's the right colour, and it's a Tranny!
That wins the internet today rofl

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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Good 10 minute moan on the financial cost to the SNP of the election. Starts with saying it is two days late while he sobered up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P96qg0qtESA

Short money plus loss of levy paid by MPs not far short of £1.5M x the 5 years of the parliament = £7.5M.

For a party that loss £800k 2 years ago.

Bankruotcy? Perhaps not. Heavily hampered in the run up to 2026 - yes.

Includes the standout phrase explaining why nobody was on he streets celebrating. The answer. "You were voting for a jobby or a ste". In other words Labour may not be the saviour but it was a price to be paid for killing the SNP.

Edited by irc on Sunday 7th July 00:16

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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The infighting intensifies.

" Alex Neil, in turn said Ms Sturgeon, along with her successor Humza Yousaf and his successor John Swinney were responsdible.
"Nicola was the main author of this defeat along with Humza and John," he wrote on X, formerly Twitter yesterday.
He went on to call for a fresh leadership team of Deputy First Minister Kate Forbes and Westminster leader Stephen Flynn.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24435745.snp-f...

Alex Neil not accepting that the message is the problem not the messenger. Not that corruption and incompetence helps of course.

From the comments

"The SNP has never been the natural vehicle for people’s aspirations; it is a one trick pony that has never mastered its one trick."

Edited by irc on Sunday 7th July 10:19

s2kjock

1,796 posts

162 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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irc said:
"The SNP has never been the natural vehicle for people’s aspirations; it is a one trick pony that has never mastered its one trick."
rofl brilliant

Evercross

6,612 posts

79 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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irc said:
The infighting intensifies.

" Alex Neil, in turn said Ms Sturgeon, along with her successor Humza Yousaf and his successor John Swinney were responsdible.
"Nicola was the main author of this defeat along with Humza and John," he wrote on X, formerly Twitter yesterday.
He went on to call for a fresh leadership team of Deputy First Minister Kate Forbes and Westminster leader Stephen Flynn.


https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24435745.snp-f...
The other side of the battleline...

'They' Nicola? Your attempt to distance yourself from SNP calamity fooled no-one

I cited often in the past how former SNP activist George Laird had labled the erstwhile SNP leader and First Minister "unpopular Nicola Sturgeon" - not because she was unpopular with the electorate or the sycophantic media. He named her that long before covid, long before the referendum, and long before the 'Saint Nicola' moniker was bequeathed and then faltered.

His reasons were that, working on the inside, he had seen first hand how she was two-faced, narcissistic, and would throw others under the bus without a thought - including those in her own party, not for ruthless political expediency (which would be seen as being tough but admirable) but for her own pettiness and self-gratification (see the need to obliterate Alex Salmond's legacy as the peak example).

She was unpopular within her own ranks but it took a decade of power for the RoW to discover why, finally underlined in her sociopathic display on TV on two consecutive election nights. Her reaction to Jo Swinson's loss in 2019 is legend, and her 2024 impassive distancing of herself from an electoral disaster that she was the architect of is her political epitaph.

As Stephen Daisley summarised in his latest piece, Nicola was always "a nasty piece of work".

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 7th July 11:08

irc

8,881 posts

151 months

Sunday 7th July 2024
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As Stephen Daisley summarised in his latest piece, Nicola was always "a nasty piece of work".
Which begs the question of how she rose to the top in the first place. My take on it.

Got in early aged 16 before the SNP were the party of power so she was well entrenched by the time the SNP became a destination for those whose aim was power regardless of party.

Knew the right people. Married the party chairman. Was friends (or pretended to be) with big Eck.

Never kept notes.

Had an air of menace so very few in the party would argue with her.

Benefitted from the legacy of decent govt and high poll ratings left after Eck resigned in 2014.


The measure of her competency is that after 10 years in absolute power despite Boris, Brexit, and Covid, she never got any closer to indy than Eck did and had to leave before the posse as the project crashed and burned.

Am I being too judgemental?

Is it a coincidence that both the men closest to her have faced serious criminal charges?