Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

[turbobloke]

768 said:

Vanden Saab said:

bhstewie said:

Now people are moaning about 35%

It's seats that matter.

Oh wait, 52% needed a second go and I clearly remember 37% of the total being mentioned. Labour did not even get 20% of the the total electorate.

We could have another go next week and call it the people's vote.

Bercow may have availability, he's a part-time professor of politics apparently. The optics may not be good however after he was suspended from the Labour Party back in 2022 following reports of him bullying staff.

[768]

Starmer: I'm appointing you Secretary of State for the Department for Levelling Up, Housing, and Communities

Rayner: I will be Secretary of State for the Department for Levelling Up, Housing, and Communities

Rayner: I'm not doing levelling up though

[andy43]

I went past a new building site yesterday actually - she’s not messing about.

[Cyder]

I went to the GP this morning and was seen 3 minutes early.
That's the NHS fixed, what's next?

[andy43]

Gaza must be next surely? There's a lot to get through before early dart friday.

[turbobloke]

andy43 said:

Gaza must be next surely? There's a lot to get through before early dart friday.

The starmtroopers (Katy Balls) will cancel POETS day.

[768]

Emily Thornberry snubbed, no role in the cabinet.

https://x.com/emilythornberry/status/1810243213359...

[turbobloke]

768 said:

Emily Thornberry snubbed, no role in the cabinet.

https://x.com/emilythornberry/status/1810243213359...

Interesting.

She wishes 'all' her 'brilliant' colleagues well, low single figures (being generous) hardly warrants 'all'.

[andy43]

They’ve never had rolls in the Cabinet - she should look in the all expenses paid canteen.

[768]

[Mr Penguin]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/10/la...

Predictable

[119]

Mr Penguin said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/10/la...

Predictable

Well that’s a great start.

[Mr Penguin]

https://order-order.com/2024/07/10/labours-promise...

I support this u-turn although he did it as LOTO too - Starmer is a busy man and I'm glad he is using private jets to save time - but two flights to the same place seems excessive. Do they not get on?

[LimmerickLad]

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[hidetheelephants]

Mr Penguin said:

https://order-order.com/2024/07/10/labours-promise...

I support this u-turn although he did it as LOTO too - Starmer is a busy man and I'm glad he is using private jets to save time - but two flights to the same place seems excessive. Do they not get on?

Because spending a day plus getting to/from Kyiv on the train is a reasonable way for a minister to occupy their time?

[BikeBikeBIke]

Mr Penguin said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/10/la...

Predictable

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/10/labour-mp-opposes-new-homes-on-green-belt/

I suspect that's what her constituents want. More than my MP bothered to do in support of the area.

Perhaps wishes she had stood up for her area now she's been voted out.

[jtremlett]

hidetheelephants said:

Mr Penguin said:

https://order-order.com/2024/07/10/labours-promise...

I support this u-turn although he did it as LOTO too - Starmer is a busy man and I'm glad he is using private jets to save time - but two flights to the same place seems excessive. Do they not get on?

Because spending a day plus getting to/from Kyiv on the train is a reasonable way for a minister to occupy their time?

Kyiv is one thing but I don't think it is too hard to find a cheaper way to get to Washington just as quickly.

Anyhow your sentence about "a reasonable way for a minister to occupy their time" makes me laugh when all of them have just spent 6 weeks (I think it only seemed like 6 months) poncing around doing nothing useful. At the risk of drifting even further off topic, I do wonder if anyone really decides their vote based on a video of a politician standing in a biscuit factory wearing a white coat or whatever wheeze their spin doctors have dreamt up for them to pass the time while not dealing with the business of government.

[hidetheelephants]

jtremlett said:

yiv is one thing but I don't think it is too hard to find a cheaper way to get to Washington just as quickly.

Anyhow your sentence about "a reasonable way for a minister to occupy their time" makes me laugh when all of them have just spent 6 weeks (I think it only seemed like 6 months) poncing around doing nothing useful. At the risk of drifting even further off topic, I do wonder if anyone really decides their vote based on a video of a politician standing in a biscuit factory wearing a white coat or whatever wheeze their spin doctors have dreamt up for them to pass the time while not dealing with the business of government.

While elections can seem quite tedious for the voter they're pretty important, so "poncing around doing nothing useful" isn't how I'd describe it. The alternatives are much worse.

[jtremlett]

hidetheelephants said:

jtremlett said:

yiv is one thing but I don't think it is too hard to find a cheaper way to get to Washington just as quickly.

Anyhow your sentence about "a reasonable way for a minister to occupy their time" makes me laugh when all of them have just spent 6 weeks (I think it only seemed like 6 months) poncing around doing nothing useful. At the risk of drifting even further off topic, I do wonder if anyone really decides their vote based on a video of a politician standing in a biscuit factory wearing a white coat or whatever wheeze their spin doctors have dreamt up for them to pass the time while not dealing with the business of government.

While elections can seem quite tedious for the voter they're pretty important, so "poncing around doing nothing useful" isn't how I'd describe it. The alternatives are much worse.

You rather missed my point which was not that elections are not useful but rather that many of the things that politicians are doing between when the election is called and when the votes are cast are of no value and certainly, to my mind, of considerably less value than much of what they would or should otherwise be doing.

[hidetheelephants]

It's a package deal.