Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

[bitchstewie]

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

A bit unpleasant maybe in the context of Starmer's attack ads. Short/selective memory? Politics would be better off without any of it.

[S600BSB]

bhstewie said:

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

It’s really cheap and desperate isn’t it.

[biggbn]

turbobloke said:

bhstewie said:

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

A bit unpleasant maybe in the context of Starmer's attack ads. Short/selective memory? Politics would be better off without any of it.

TB, why would you assume I think differently? Political life is a vile cesspit sadly, like animals in a zoo throwing enough st in the vain hope something sticks. Life would be better without this divisive nonsense. Even more ironically, Sunak expressly told Nick Ferrari one of the things he most admired about Starmer was his ability to balance his family life and work.

My point though, wasn't so much about the allegations of antisemitism which the comment clearly wasn't, in any way, shape or form, it was the fact a comment that could, and surely would be misconstrued as such was uttered in the first place. These people simply don't think about the future, a rather damning indictment for a politician!!

[bitchstewie]

I think the antisemitism angle is an overreach.

But when you've had cabinet ministers saying Starmer says he's going to a four day week or posting the bks Grant Shapps did it's just pathetic.

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So, who is going to be the part time PM?

[Mr Penguin]

It's obviously not anti-semitism but moving a couple of hours around won't be difficult unless there is an emergency and presumably in that case he'll just do it or delegate as appropriate.

For something more important - Starmer has made another u-turn, this time on releasing prisoners early which he has (rightly) decided is the only way to manage prisons in the short term, having previously attacked the government for it.
This is the most obvious consequence to imposing longer and longer prison sentences - the government should take a different approach to crime, whoever is in government.

There was talk of leasing prison space in Estonia or some other European country but I haven't heard about it for a while.

[biggbn]

Mr Penguin said:

It's obviously not anti-semitism but moving a couple of hours around won't be difficult unless there is an emergency and presumably in that case he'll just do it or delegate as appropriate.

For something more important - Starmer has made another u-turn, this time on releasing prisoners early which he has (rightly) decided is the only way to manage prisons in the short term, having previously attacked the government for it.
This is the most obvious consequence to imposing longer and longer prison sentences - the government should take a different approach to crime, whoever is in government.

There was talk of leasing prison space in Estonia or some other European country but I haven't heard about it for a while.

Send them to Rwanda?

[JagLover]

S600BSB said:

It’s really cheap and desperate isn’t it.

Agreed

And overwork doesn't help in doing a job properly.

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bhstewie said:

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

[Square Leg]

119 said:

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

C
We know John Major did - very fond of peas with his dinners.

[turbobloke]

Square Leg said:

119 said:

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

We know John Major did - very fond of peas with his dinners.

With an occasional curry.

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turbobloke said:

Square Leg said:

119 said:

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

We know John Major did - very fond of peas with his dinners.

With an occasional curry.

[JagLover]

turbobloke said:

Square Leg said:

119 said:

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

We know John Major did - very fond of peas with his dinners.

With an occasional curry.

[LimmerickLad]

turbobloke said:

Square Leg said:

119 said:

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

We know John Major did - very fond of peas with his dinners.

With an occasional curry.

[anonymoususer]

The six o clock Keirs out the door thing is IMO one of the most pathetic bits of election name calling I can remember going back over 46 years.
Absolutely pathetic

[anonymoususer]

119 said:

So, who is going to be the part time PM?

PM may be taking a break from politics
Penny Mordaunt that is

[Rivenink]

119 said:

bhstewie said:

biggbn said:

Brilliant ploy today. The Tories criticism of Starmer for saying he won't be working after 6pm Fridays CAN, if you look hard enough, and really twist, turn and torture the statement be construed as anti-semitic because of the relevance of Friday to his wife's faith.

And nobody thought about this....

....so the one thing they really had, the one stick they could pick up in case of emergency, the labour party's problematic relationship with this subject had been negated with one comment...

Does nobody in politics think anymore? Does nobody examine statements and advise, tactically?

Can't find anything to attack him with? I know let's attack him for wanting to have dinner with his wife and kids.

How utterly fked up.

Do you really think all previous pms over the many years have never sat down and had dinner and quality time with their family during their terms?

That's the point being made, isn't it.

Stamer has said he'll carve out a bit of time every week for his family, and delusional as they are, the Tories think that'll play badly to the millions of men and women who have families ( and are paying £100's more on their mortgages thanks to the Tories)

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Rivenink said:

That's the point being made, isn't it.

Stamer has said he'll carve out a bit of time every week for his family, and delusional as they are, the Tories think that'll play badly to the millions of men and women who have families ( and are paying £100's more on their mortgages thanks to the Tories)

Not convinced that’s the case at all.

He is selling himself as a ‘family man’ when realistically every other PM has done the same.

Let’s just hope he answers his mobile on the weekends.

[bitchstewie]

They shouldn't be attacking a man for saying he'll have dinner with his family once a week because it's important to him and them.

I really didn't think it needed explaining but here we are once again.