Your voting intentions

[turbobloke]

This PH poll continues to surprise, with an initial 20 point Labour lead down to 10 points then 9, 8 and now 7.

[bitchstewie]

Yeah this place is really representative of the country as a whole.

I'm sure it'll be fine

[MC Bodge]

turbobloke said:

This PH poll continues to surprise, with an initial 20 point Labour lead down to 10 points then 9, 8 and now 7.

You must have so many accounts.

[hidetheelephants]

B'stard Child said:

bhstewie said:

Try the next five years.

It's not like Brexit still causes tantrums still and that was 8 years ago!!!

Welcome to the "polarised" world

Try being scottish; a decade and counting, still no diminution of the chips on shoulders.

[S600BSB]

bhstewie said:

Yeah this place is really representative of the country as a whole.

I'm sure it'll be fine

15/16% for Reform would be spectacularly good on 4 July.

[B'stard Child]

hidetheelephants said:

B'stard Child said:

bhstewie said:

Try the next five years.

It's not like Brexit still causes tantrums still and that was 8 years ago!!!

Welcome to the "polarised" world

Try being scottish; a decade and counting, still no diminution of the chips on shoulders.

North of the border results are going to be most interesting than south of it IMO

[Hugo Stiglitz]

JagLover said:

B'stard Child said:

BoomerPride said:

Does this Pistonheads poll now need rebooting? Things have changed.

What things have changed??

Well Farage joining the election campaign and Sunak making it his personal duty to alienate every voter for a start.

It's surreall, calling the snap election after the local elections slaughter; soaked press conference, vanishes from a key meeting etc etc.

It's like he's trying to sabotage this. Labour doesn't even need to campaign.

[Amateurish]

S600BSB said:

15/16% for Reform would be spectacularly good on 4 July.

They still wouldn't get any seats though. It just shows how bad fptp is.

[SWoll]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

It's like he's trying to sabotage this. Labour doesn't even need to campaign.

Indeed. The big one for Labour is going to be the manifesto launch which they can't avoid though.

Another vote thread like this and poll results after that will be interesting. According to their own website it should have been out on Thursday 4th, but now the 13th is being suggested?

[119]

SWoll said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

It's like he's trying to sabotage this. Labour doesn't even need to campaign.

Indeed. The big one for Labour is going to be the manifesto launch which they can't avoid though.

Another vote thread like this and poll results after that will be interesting. According to their own website it should have been out on Thursday 4th, but now the 13th is being suggested?

I’ll set up another one nearer the end of the month as I think there could be quite a change in results by then.

[Caddyshack]

EmBe said:

272BHP said:

ARHarh said:

Everyone should vote, especially the ones have an opinion strong enough to come here and post on this thread. If everyone who felt that way did not vote what would we end up with, a lot more of the same is my guess. Its due to people thinking what ever they vote wont make a difference that creates the problems we are in now. Have your say even if none of the parties suit you, vote for the one that is the best match.

Or turn up and spoil your ballot.

This is still a valid option.

I'd never not vote, because that gets written off a 'voter apathy'.
I want it recorded that I'm not in the least apathetic, but in the absence of a 'None of the above' option, if there's no one I think worth voting for I'll turn up and spoil the ballot.

I don’t get what spoiling a ballet paper achieves? Isn’t it just a waste of your own time?

[anonymoususer]

turbobloke said:

This PH poll continues to surprise, with an initial 20 point Labour lead down to 10 points then 9, 8 and now 7.

Thats because I use Discowipe . It removes all cookies and internet history

[Stick Legs]

It will be interesting to see if this has any basis in fact:



Personally I believe that Sunak is finished.

The D-Day thing shows a complete tin ear for anything resembling public opinion.

Cameron would make a fine caretaker until the next Michael Howard can be found.

[Oliver Hardy]

Problem with Cameron, he is a quitter!

Called the referendum, had no back up plan so he ran away.

Would he be any better than Sunak?

[ARHarh]

Caddyshack said:

EmBe said:

272BHP said:

ARHarh said:

Everyone should vote, especially the ones have an opinion strong enough to come here and post on this thread. If everyone who felt that way did not vote what would we end up with, a lot more of the same is my guess. Its due to people thinking what ever they vote wont make a difference that creates the problems we are in now. Have your say even if none of the parties suit you, vote for the one that is the best match.

Or turn up and spoil your ballot.

This is still a valid option.

I'd never not vote, because that gets written off a 'voter apathy'.
I want it recorded that I'm not in the least apathetic, but in the absence of a 'None of the above' option, if there's no one I think worth voting for I'll turn up and spoil the ballot.

I don’t get what spoiling a ballet paper achieves? Isn’t it just a waste of your own time?

Spoiled papers are counted, so will have some significance. They will also stop the likes of the lesser parties getting seats and us ending up with no real opposition.

[Stick Legs]

Oliver Hardy said:

Problem with Cameron, he is a quitter!

Called the referendum, had no back up plan so he ran away.

Would he be any better than Sunak?

No he wouldn’t but the Conservatives aren’t getting into government for 10 years so why waste any good potential PM’s on opposition.

IMHO William Hague would have been an excellent PM, dare I say it the best PM we didn’t have in the last 50 years.

What the Conservatives need is a good dispatch box performer, who can hold government to account & hold the fort until the inevitable 3-4 year soul searching & re-invention process happens.

As a life long Conservative voter there is no way I am voting for them this time.
The days of me holding my nose & voting blue are over.

I shall be voting Lib-Dem this time, and wait and see what happens in the Conservative party.

I fear they will see the polling of Reform & mis-interpret that information as saying that they weren’t ‘ERG’ enough.

The particular brand of ‘Ken Clarke Toryism’ that I believed in is dead.

[EmBe]

ARHarh said:

Caddyshack said:

EmBe said:

272BHP said:

ARHarh said:

Everyone should vote, especially the ones have an opinion strong enough to come here and post on this thread. If everyone who felt that way did not vote what would we end up with, a lot more of the same is my guess. Its due to people thinking what ever they vote wont make a difference that creates the problems we are in now. Have your say even if none of the parties suit you, vote for the one that is the best match.

Or turn up and spoil your ballot.

This is still a valid option.

I'd never not vote, because that gets written off a 'voter apathy'.
I want it recorded that I'm not in the least apathetic, but in the absence of a 'None of the above' option, if there's no one I think worth voting for I'll turn up and spoil the ballot.

I don’t get what spoiling a ballet paper achieves? Isn’t it just a waste of your own time?

Spoiled papers are counted, so will have some significance. They will also stop the likes of the lesser parties getting seats and us ending up with no real opposition.

In the FPTP system, the 'lesser' parties don't win seats anyway. Reform might poll at 16%, but they'll struggle to win a seat I suspect.
Even if they do, Westminster is brutal on interlopers; they rarely last more than a single term and almost never achieve anything they set out to do - you need a big party machine behind you to get anywhere.

[turbobloke]

EmBe said:

ARHarh said:

Caddyshack said:

EmBe said:

272BHP said:

ARHarh said:

Everyone should vote, especially the ones have an opinion strong enough to come here and post on this thread. If everyone who felt that way did not vote what would we end up with, a lot more of the same is my guess. Its due to people thinking what ever they vote wont make a difference that creates the problems we are in now. Have your say even if none of the parties suit you, vote for the one that is the best match.

Or turn up and spoil your ballot.

This is still a valid option.

I'd never not vote, because that gets written off a 'voter apathy'.
I want it recorded that I'm not in the least apathetic, but in the absence of a 'None of the above' option, if there's no one I think worth voting for I'll turn up and spoil the ballot.

I don’t get what spoiling a ballet paper achieves? Isn’t it just a waste of your own time?

Spoiled papers are counted, so will have some significance. They will also stop the likes of the lesser parties getting seats and us ending up with no real opposition.

In the FPTP system, the 'lesser' parties don't win seats anyway. Reform might poll at 16%, but they'll struggle to win a seat I suspect.
Even if they do, Westminster is brutal on interlopers; they rarely last more than a single term and almost never achieve anything they set out to do - you need a big party machine behind you to get anywhere.

Farage achieved major change with no directly elected seats. that's why he's so popular.

[markh1973]

ARHarh said:

Caddyshack said:

EmBe said:

272BHP said:

ARHarh said:

Everyone should vote, especially the ones have an opinion strong enough to come here and post on this thread. If everyone who felt that way did not vote what would we end up with, a lot more of the same is my guess. Its due to people thinking what ever they vote wont make a difference that creates the problems we are in now. Have your say even if none of the parties suit you, vote for the one that is the best match.

Or turn up and spoil your ballot.

This is still a valid option.

I'd never not vote, because that gets written off a 'voter apathy'.
I want it recorded that I'm not in the least apathetic, but in the absence of a 'None of the above' option, if there's no one I think worth voting for I'll turn up and spoil the ballot.

I don’t get what spoiling a ballet paper achieves? Isn’t it just a waste of your own time?

Spoiled papers are counted, so will have some significance. They will also stop the likes of the lesser parties getting seats and us ending up with no real opposition.

Spoiled papers may get counted but they no more stop the smaller parties getting seats than not voting at all does.

As for drawing a cock and balls on the paper what's the point? The people counting the papers aren't the people that you want to send a message to.

[272BHP]

markh1973 said:

Spoiled papers may get counted but they no more stop the smaller parties getting seats than not voting at all does.

As for drawing a cock and balls on the paper what's the point? The people counting the papers aren't the people that you want to send a message to.

Not turning up to vote says either you don't care or are quite happy with the status quo. A spoilt ballot quite clearly says I am invested but I have no one on the ballot to vote for so in effect "None of the above"

A few spoilt ballots does not cause a ripple - thousands of them would send a pretty strong message.