Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
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the-photographer said:
Hunt kept his seat
They'll want to find their own "Farage" - what looks easier for them, being more centrist to get a bigger share of the vote or stepping further right towards where the Reform voters are?I put my money on them going after the Reform voters - waiting for the right wing press to kick in a demand for the return of BoJo lol
Edited by IanJ9375 on Friday 5th July 10:39
IanJ9375 said:
They'll want to find their own "Farage" - what's looks easier for them, being more centrist to get a bigger share of the vote or stepping further right towards where the Reform voters are?
I put my money on them going after the Reform voters - waiting for the right wing press to kick in a demand for the return of BoJo lol
One of the many difficulties for them, I think, is that they've been broadly saying the same things as Farage - talking tough on immigration, sorting out the NHS, anti-woke, party of business, etc.I put my money on them going after the Reform voters - waiting for the right wing press to kick in a demand for the return of BoJo lol
But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
768 said:
One of the many difficulties for them, I think, is that they've been broadly saying the same things as Farage - talking tough on immigration, sorting out the NHS, anti-woke, party of business, etc.
But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
Suella....But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
pb8g09 said:
768 said:
One of the many difficulties for them, I think, is that they've been broadly saying the same things as Farage - talking tough on immigration, sorting out the NHS, anti-woke, party of business, etc.
But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
Suella....But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
and they all kept their seats.
Dave200 said:
Ian Geary said:
It would be entirely hypocritical for Tories /reform Tories to enjoy the fruits of pr for the last 2 elections, but want it as soon as it suits them. Coalitions give fringe parties way too much power- see Scotland and Israel for different extremes of this
This will be lost in the noise.pb8g09 said:
768 said:
One of the many difficulties for them, I think, is that they've been broadly saying the same things as Farage - talking tough on immigration, sorting out the NHS, anti-woke, party of business, etc.
But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
Suella....But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
pb8g09 said:
768 said:
One of the many difficulties for them, I think, is that they've been broadly saying the same things as Farage - talking tough on immigration, sorting out the NHS, anti-woke, party of business, etc.
But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
Suella....But their actions have been something else altogether and that's why they've lost votes to Reform. So I'm not sure where they shift the empty rhetoric to, to gain Reform voters, or how it would actually attract their votes.
Braverman really epitomises that image.
I don’t see any of the former crew finding favour amongst what grows out of the remnants personally.
swisstoni said:
They built a reputation of talking big and achieving nothing.
Braverman really epitomises that image.
I don’t see any of the former crew finding favour amongst what grows out of the remnants personally.
I absolutely agree. Braverman really epitomises that image.
I don’t see any of the former crew finding favour amongst what grows out of the remnants personally.
Sadly the majority of my town seem to disagree and think she's a great MP. I do wonder if they mix up the general election with the local council elections - because the local Tory council is actually doing an excellent job and it's washed over into the General.
PurplePenguin said:
biggbn said:
So, if I'm reading this right...the greens are as popular as Reform, Sinn Fein are more popular and independent mostly pro Palestine candidates are as popular if not more so....on seats won certainly?
As a percentage of votes?Wills2 said:
It's clear that Reform set fire to the Tories election chances and have handed Labour a massive victory, I don't know how I'd feel if I was a reform voter but it's clear many of them just like breaking things, nothing more than political arsonists.
Smash up a bus shelter at 11pm on a Saturday night, then find yourself waiting in the rain for the No73 on Monday. 
king Kruger 
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