General Election July 2024
Discussion
Murph7355 said:
I agree with you about AV, but voted for it exactly because voting against it was what was wanted by the Tories (Clegg can't have loved it either, but was clearly mugged off).
Had it been changed back then, the door would have been open for further adjustment later. Instead the big parties now believe "well we did that in 2011 so no need to open back up".
Given what has happened since I would change my vote.Had it been changed back then, the door would have been open for further adjustment later. Instead the big parties now believe "well we did that in 2011 so no need to open back up".
thetapeworm said:
Maybe I was naive to it but I spent yesterday travelling around Bradford and was surprised by how many Independent candidates were standing and using the Palestinian flag as the background for their campaign posters.
One said he'd donate 50% of his salary to Palestine and the other 50% to local causes.
Labour retained the seat but with a vastly reduced majority of 700, Naz Shah just did an interview where it was all about a ceasefire, no mention of the issues in the city I'd been out in delivering beds for a charity for kids living in some pretty eye opening conditions.
I've just seen the local news and an Independent has won in Dewsbury and Batley, his rosette in Palestinian colours and his speech dedicated to the issues over there.
I don't want to downplay what's going on in the wider world or come across a bit "Reformy" but sheesh.
It sucks and I think the priorities of people in Bradford are mental but that is the system working. Local people vote on the issues thst are most important to them and get representation for their POV.One said he'd donate 50% of his salary to Palestine and the other 50% to local causes.
Labour retained the seat but with a vastly reduced majority of 700, Naz Shah just did an interview where it was all about a ceasefire, no mention of the issues in the city I'd been out in delivering beds for a charity for kids living in some pretty eye opening conditions.
I've just seen the local news and an Independent has won in Dewsbury and Batley, his rosette in Palestinian colours and his speech dedicated to the issues over there.
I don't want to downplay what's going on in the wider world or come across a bit "Reformy" but sheesh.
Quite how he hopes to assist Hamas from the UK parliament is beyond me....
LimmerickLad said:
Dave200 said:
LimmerickLad said:
She's already registered the domain names apparantly.
You read that here, didn't you? You're just regurgitating that without any attempt to work out if it's true, aren't you?
Rayner4pm.co.uk and Angela4pm.co.uk
Registered 2 years ago, in Germany.
What do you think that tells us, Poirot?
S600BSB said:
mr_tony said:
eldar said:
G-wiz said:
Audi not a good look to drive into Buck House.
Rishi, what a prat, cannot do anything correct.
Are there no suitable British cars he could have chosen?
For example?Rishi, what a prat, cannot do anything correct.
Are there no suitable British cars he could have chosen?
Lotus.. no
McLaren no
Aston no
Bentley no
JLR no
even Morgan is owned by a European investment group now…
Bac mono?
Atom?
Caterham?
smn159 said:
That statement says more about you than it does about her, frankly
Great comeback. Well I do look forward to her standing down in the future. Lightweight in PMQ's and not without a bit of scandal herself. How did she put discuss her honorable colleagues, 'Etonian scum' wasn't it? What a great example of a 'down to earth' woman, who is now in a place she is hopelessly out of her depth. SpidersWeb said:
FPTP might deliver some odd results but proportional representation could deliver some utterly crazy governments.
Couldn't agree more. So many voices calling for electoral reform don't appear to have thought any further than being disappointed with the election result.smn159 said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
tamore said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
Yes the UK can move on..... into a financial abyss.
we're in it already! try the supersavers range without the permanent blue tint. 
The country has given their verdict on that and it's going to take a while to start to put right - but at least some grown ups are back in the room to start doing so.
Carl_VivaEspana said:
smn159 said:
The country has given their verdict on that and it's going to take a while to start to put right - but at least some grown ups are back in the room to start doing so.
as pointed out elsewhere, there's approx 9 million labour voters and 6 million public sector workers. The remainder of the 3 million were 2.9999m benefits scroungers and me (joke).I exaggerate of course but it's unlikely that many in the 40%+ tax bracket voted red and therefore he has 4.5 years to win their vote otherwise Labour are back out of power in 5 years.
BikeBikeBIke said:
thetapeworm said:
Maybe I was naive to it but I spent yesterday travelling around Bradford and was surprised by how many Independent candidates were standing and using the Palestinian flag as the background for their campaign posters.
One said he'd donate 50% of his salary to Palestine and the other 50% to local causes.
Labour retained the seat but with a vastly reduced majority of 700, Naz Shah just did an interview where it was all about a ceasefire, no mention of the issues in the city I'd been out in delivering beds for a charity for kids living in some pretty eye opening conditions.
I've just seen the local news and an Independent has won in Dewsbury and Batley, his rosette in Palestinian colours and his speech dedicated to the issues over there.
I don't want to downplay what's going on in the wider world or come across a bit "Reformy" but sheesh.
It sucks and I think the priorities of people in Bradford are mental but that is the system working. Local people vote on the issues thst are most important to them and get representation for their POV.One said he'd donate 50% of his salary to Palestine and the other 50% to local causes.
Labour retained the seat but with a vastly reduced majority of 700, Naz Shah just did an interview where it was all about a ceasefire, no mention of the issues in the city I'd been out in delivering beds for a charity for kids living in some pretty eye opening conditions.
I've just seen the local news and an Independent has won in Dewsbury and Batley, his rosette in Palestinian colours and his speech dedicated to the issues over there.
I don't want to downplay what's going on in the wider world or come across a bit "Reformy" but sheesh.
Quite how he hopes to assist Hamas from the UK parliament is beyond me....
Chicken Chaser said:
carlo996 said:
Just be thankful Labour weren't in charge during the pandemic. Starmer isn't a great leader, or speaker. Boris used to savage him regularly. Once the afterglow has faded and reality dawns I am sure the same 'incompetence' will be there for all to see, we are dealing with politicians. As for the 'country' the turnout was pathetic, which shows how motivating Starmer was....... in supposedly the worst hour of a government we have ever seen?
I don't care if he's a good orator. He needs to be a good manager, sort out the mess that the Tories have left and bring stability to the role that we've not had in a decade. Dave200 said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
smn159 said:
The country has given their verdict on that and it's going to take a while to start to put right - but at least some grown ups are back in the room to start doing so.
as pointed out elsewhere, there's approx 9 million labour voters and 6 million public sector workers. The remainder of the 3 million were 2.9999m benefits scroungers and me (joke).I exaggerate of course but it's unlikely that many in the 40%+ tax bracket voted red and therefore he has 4.5 years to win their vote otherwise Labour are back out of power in 5 years.
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