General Election July 2024

[donkmeister]

Dave200 said:

LimmerickLad said:

She's already registered the domain names apparantly.

You read that here, didn't you?

You're just regurgitating that without any attempt to work out if it's true, aren't you?

Rayner4pm.co.uk and Angela4pm.co.uk
Registered 2 years ago, in Germany.

What do you think that tells us, Poirot?

She's behind a policy to ensure that everything stops for tea?

It's a sensible move in the current international climate. After all, there isn't any war when the clock strikes 4, cos everything stops for tea.

[Jinx]

oddman said:

If you have the time have a listen to her on TRiP She comes across pretty well although pretty softball interview.

In relation to the role in government and the party, she's essentially John Prescott in a dress. I'm looking forward to her lamping someone who throws an egg at her. She's performed very well when deputising for SKS but is still essentially unproven. I've a feeling she'll do well.

If you have a visceral prejudice against her, I think it says more about you than her. I'm keeping an open mind. If the relationship with SKS can work, they could do a decent head/heart double act.

The language she has used in the past does not make me warm to her, nothing to do with prejudice (brought up in single parent family myself, in a fairly rough area, so have sympathy in that direction) .

[BikeBikeBIke]

thetapeworm said:

As expected Jenkyns couldn't even lose with grace, skip to 6:30

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x91k8e0

This will be her legacy...

Yeah, that was dire. Even if you thought it was all true that wasn't remotely the time to say it.

[SpidersWeb]

Mojooo said:

Has any website said what would have happened if Reform didn't take the Tory vote?

Impossible to say.

Not all Reform voters were previous Conservative voters, so you couldn't just attribute the Reform vote to the Conservatives.

And if Reform hadn't existed would sufficient of those voters actually turned out to vote for the party they were protesting against because in very few constituencies must the Reform voters have seriously thought that the Reform candidate could actually win, rather than it just being a 'fk you' vote.

[PlywoodPascal]

Carl_VivaEspana said:

smn159 said:

The country has given their verdict on that and it's going to take a while to start to put right - but at least some grown ups are back in the room to start doing so.

as pointed out elsewhere, there's approx 9 million labour voters and 6 million public sector workers. The remainder of the 3 million were 2.9999m benefits scroungers and me (joke).

I exaggerate of course but it's unlikely that many in the 40%+ tax bracket voted red and therefore he has 4.5 years to win their vote otherwise Labour are back out of power in 5 years.

I think your final sentence is unjustified nonsense. At the last election vote share for labour was pretty consistent across all 'social grades' (correlated with income). In fact voting for labour was positively correlated with education (more extensively educated people were more likely to vote for labour). Since education is also correlated with income, it also suggests your point is wrong.

[oddman]

Jinx said:

oddman said:

If you have the time have a listen to her on TRiP She comes across pretty well although pretty softball interview.

In relation to the role in government and the party, she's essentially John Prescott in a dress. I'm looking forward to her lamping someone who throws an egg at her. She's performed very well when deputising for SKS but is still essentially unproven. I've a feeling she'll do well.

If you have a visceral prejudice against her, I think it says more about you than her. I'm keeping an open mind. If the relationship with SKS can work, they could do a decent head/heart double act.

The language she has used in the past does not make me warm to her, nothing to do with prejudice (brought up in single parent family myself, in a fairly rough area, so have sympathy in that direction) .

I get that and TBF what you're describing is not a visceral prejudice. The test is whether the same words from John Prescott would get the same response in the media and from the public. Suspect not. Punching the egg guy did no harm to him. She's expected to conform to standards that aren't applied to male politicians.

[Jinx]

oddman said:

I get that and TBF what you're describing is not a visceral prejudice. The test is whether the same words from John Prescott would get the same response in the media and from the public. Suspect not. Punching the egg guy did no harm to him. She's expected to conform to standards that aren't applied to male politicians.

With Prescott that just made him human in the eyes of the electorate.

[Murph7355]

Rufus Stone said:

To be fair to her, Rayner is s good example of the opportunities in the UK and what people can achieve with drive and hard work despite a poor start in life. We need more people like her.

We really don't.

[LARK F1 GTR]

E63eeeeee... said:

On what planet are the socialist council housed single mother and the right-wing billionaire heiress's husband cheeks of the same arse? Must be fking weird where you live.

I was talking about the parties.

Sunak is right wing? Lol!!! Fantastic!! I'll leave this alone now before I actually do piss myself laughing.

[carlo996]

S600BSB said:

smn159 said:

LARK F1 GTR said:

Angela Rayner is deputy PM. Just let that sink in!!

Great news - she'll do well

Hopefully she is also going to lead on the levelling up agenda and addressing the housing crisis.

Well she knows quite a bit about playing that system. Perhaps she'll use her 'street' language to get everyone on side? She looks and sounds like a car crash tbf.

[Leithen]

We'll see a lot more of her now, and in a very different situation. I suspect she will do well. I also suspect that regardless, those who wish to dislike her will continue to do so.

[Mr Penguin]

thetapeworm said:

As expected Jenkyns couldn't even lose with grace, skip to 6:30

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x91k8e0

This will be her legacy...

For the first minute I wondered what you were criticising, then it turned into a very poor show. Funnily enough Ed Balls is always saying how he thought she had a lot of integrity when she beat him in 2015. Perhaps she lost it after three wins going to her head. It's really disappointing to see it from a cabinet minister in a marginal seat because they should be better than that and expect to be voted out sooner or later just from the natural pendulum of politics.

[bitchstewie]

Leithen said:

We'll see a lot more of her now, and in a very different situation. I suspect she will do well. I also suspect that regardless, those who wish to dislike her will continue to do so.

I hope so.

We keep being told we need MPs that are more like the people they represent.

Never will get this punching down on someone who's made a success of her life when by her own admission it could have gone a very different way given the start she had.

[CloudStuff]

Wonderful

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/18091667131805...

[Murph7355]

Jinx said:

AV was not PR and was the worst aspects of FPTP and PR in one (which is why in a heavy hearted way I voted aginst it) .

I agree with you about AV, but voted for it exactly because voting against it was what was wanted by the Tories (Clegg can't have loved it either, but was clearly mugged off).

Had it been changed back then, the door would have been open for further adjustment later. Instead the big parties now believe "well we did that in 2011 so no need to open back up".

[thetapeworm]

Maybe I was naive to it but I spent yesterday travelling around Bradford and was surprised by how many Independent candidates were standing and using the Palestinian flag as the background for their campaign posters.

One said he'd donate 50% of his salary to Palestine and the other 50% to local causes.

Labour retained the seat but with a vastly reduced majority of 700, Naz Shah just did an interview where it was all about a ceasefire, no mention of the issues in the city I'd been out in delivering beds for a charity for kids living in some pretty eye opening conditions.

I've just seen the local news and an Independent has won in Dewsbury and Batley, his rosette in Palestinian colours and his speech dedicated to the issues over there.

I don't want to downplay what's going on in the wider world or come across a bit "Reformy" but sheesh.

[smn159]

carlo996 said:

She looks and sounds like a car crash tbf.

That statement says more about you than it does about her, frankly

[WestyCarl]

bhstewie said:

I hope so.

We keep being told we need MPs that are more like the people they represent.

Never will get this punching down on someone who's made a success of her life when by her own admission it could have gone a very different way given the start she had.

I'm not a traditional Labour supporter but agree we need more people like this in the politics, I really hope she makes a differance.

[Murph7355]

oddman said:

....
In relation to the role in government and the party, she's essentially John Prescott in a dress. I'm looking forward to her lamping someone who throws an egg at her. She's performed very well when deputising for SKS but is still essentially unproven. I've a feeling she'll do well.
...

A glowing endorsement if ever there was one

[bitchstewie]

CloudStuff said:

Wonderful

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/18091667131805...

"The piggy fiddler"