Reform UK

[OddCat]

If Reform are racist then is this bloke the equivalent of a turkey voting for Christmas?

[Harry Flashman]

Yes. You had these idiots voting for UKIP, and I believe the BNP even had a token brown person or two.

[OddCat]

Mortarboard said:

OddCat said:

Just out of interest, and hypothetically speaking obviously, what bad things do the Reform haters on here think would happen if Reform were to win a majority ?

An economy like Greece, before it got the bailout.....

M.

No. The correct answer is nothing. Nothing ever happens. Aside from the ridiculous market 'over reaction' to Liz Truss's ideas, nothing has happened for years.

Reforms plans aren't THAT radical.

[Vanden Saab]

OddCat said:

If Reform are racist then is this bloke the equivalent of a turkey voting for Christmas?

It is not only white people who can be racist. Apparently.

[S600BSB]

Mr Penguin said:

bhstewie said:

Financial Times too.

Interesting that they are more enthusiastic towards Labour than the Sunday Times but also say this:

The Financial Times has no fixed party political allegiance. We believe in liberal democracy, free trade and private enterprise, and an open, outwardlooking Britain. Often this has aligned us more with Britain’s Conservatives. But this generation of Tories has squandered its reputation as the party of business, and its claim to be the natural party of government. The party needs a spell in opposition to resolve its internal differences. We would not, though, wish to see the Conservatives so shattered that they are unable to fulfil the role of viable opposition that is vital to British politics.

Fully support that, although I would also quite like to see the LDs as the official opposition - could be the making of them!

Anyway, well done FT!

[anonymous-user]

Wow these gotchas are getting desperate

[Oilchange]

Personally think the Tories need a solid kick in the goolies for the last few years and if they get knocked into third/fourth then so be it.


Lib Dems in coalition with Labour and Reform in opposition would be curiously fun. Not likely of course...

[JagLover]

Mr Penguin said:

bhstewie said:

Financial Times too.

Interesting that they are more enthusiastic towards Labour than the Sunday Times but also say this:

The Financial Times has no fixed party political allegiance. We believe in liberal democracy, free trade and private enterprise, and an open, outwardlooking Britain. Often this has aligned us more with Britain’s Conservatives. But this generation of Tories has squandered its reputation as the party of business, and its claim to be the natural party of government. The party needs a spell in opposition to resolve its internal differences. We would not, though, wish to see the Conservatives so shattered that they are unable to fulfil the role of viable opposition that is vital to British politics.

Translation we want to keep the Tories in reserve for when it is the turn of the globalists with the blue ties.

[Vasco]

OddCat said:

If Reform are racist then is this bloke the equivalent of a turkey voting for Christmas?

Not really. Many in the Sikh community may well support some of the Reform policies. Contrary to much of the twaddle in this thread, Reform hasn't claimed to a party devoted to just a dislike of ethnicity or colour.

[Ridgemont]

Harry Flashman said:

Yes. You had these idiots voting for UKIP, and I believe the BNP even had a token brown person or two.

Flash judgement. Brave.

I haven’t the scoobiest who he is.
I’m betting you don’t either.

Who’s the Rsole?

[Ridgemont]

And just to clarify you accused someone you have no idea about of being a turkey voting for Christmas. With ‘token’ comment for good measure.

Good show.

Seems like you are a racist.

[fido]

Another 'token' Asian person. Barrister as well.

https://www.reformparty.uk/hackney-south-and-shore...

[thetapeworm]

Apparently even Reform don't like Reform...

Exclusive: Reform candidate tells Tory MP Andrea Jenkyns that his party’s leadership are ‘a***holes’ as she falls out spectacularly with the right wing party

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ref...

[fido]

https://www.reformparty.uk/edmonton-and-winchmore-...

A 'token' black person.

I was jesting at the 'token' comments made earlier before I get my own feature on C4.

On the subject of .. TalkTV have a clip of the actor (4:40) with his normal voice and 'rough' character voice .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otEp79hgSfE Compare that with the C4 expose and no sane person can tell me that wasn't acting!

Edited by fido on Monday 1st July 21:46

[sunbeam alpine]

Apparently electing the far-right will be an economic disaster for France!!!

Lucky it won't be for the UK eh?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1917652/Ni...

[Ridgemont]

fido said:

https://www.reformparty.uk/edmonton-and-winchmore-...

A 'token' black person.

I was jesting at the 'token' comments made earlier before I get my own feature on C4.

On the subject of .. TalkTV have a clip of the actor (4:40) with his normal voice and 'rough' character voice .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otEp79hgSfE Compare that with the C4 expose and no sane person can tell me that wasn't acting!

Edited by fido on Monday 1st July 21:46

That seems extraordinary.
Does anyone really not believe the allegation after that?

[LimmerickLad]

The desperation of the Reform haters in here is al most palapable

[Ridgemont]

sunbeam alpine said:

Apparently electing the far-right will be an economic disaster for France!!!

Lucky it won't be for the UK eh?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1917652/Ni...

• sigh*

The difference between NF and reform policies is not difficult to judge.

Look I hold little light to Reform (the commercial outlet of N.Farage plc) but the pathetic likening of Reform to the NF is beyond stupid.

This is a link to the NF policy platform as summarised by the DT.

https://archive.is/20240701092643/https://www.tele...

The noise in this thread re Farage is beyond ridiculous.

[Elysium]

Killboy said:

Elysium said:

I just read about this story and knew immediately that you would have rushed to post it here as proof of Farage’s far right leanings.

It’s absolute desperate rubbish. I doubt anyone at reform had any idea what the song even was. Its ‘far right’ anthem status dates back all of 6 months. So unless you are pretty clued up on far right memes you are going to struggle to make the link.

Do better.

Yeah, they selected the song because it was radio 1's chart topper, nothing more.

The song in question is a 25 year old apres ski banger. The Austrian football team used it as their celebration song.

https://brusselssignal.eu/2024/06/uefa-bans-lamour...

It was appropriated by German nationalists very very recently.

The title translates to “love always”. So not exactly hate speech.

Oh and it did chart pretty high. Number 1 in Austria and the Netherlands. Apparently there was even a Tiesto remix:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'amour_toujours

Stupidest smear attempt so far.

[Elysium]

Labour are racist as well apparently:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/01/la...

James Cleverly said:

The sad truth is the racism I’ve received most recently has come from the political Left. That’s a sad indication of modern Left-wing politics, the idea that they’re very proud of black politicians, but only if they agree with their Left-wing ideology.