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Vanden Saab

16,078 posts

89 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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911hope said:
Only to people stupid enough to overlook all the obvious nonsense he spouts.

The fact that he makes it all sound simple doesn't make it true....appeals to 2 types of people.. far right and idiots.
Ah ha back to this again because it worked so well in 2016 and you call us idiots.

anonymoususer

7,128 posts

63 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?

911hope

3,548 posts

41 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Vanden Saab said:
911hope said:
Only to people stupid enough to overlook all the obvious nonsense he spouts.

The fact that he makes it all sound simple doesn't make it true....appeals to 2 types of people.. far right and idiots.
Ah ha back to this again because it worked so well in 2016 and you call us idiots.
Yep the people who swallowed it in 2016 certainly were idiots. You brought about all the immigration that you were conned into thinking would be controlled by Brexit.

That's the thing with idiots..they are easily fooled and tend to not learn from their mistakes.

frisbee

5,297 posts

125 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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anonymoususer said:
rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?
He's Helena Bonham-Carter's body double I believe.

egor110

17,491 posts

218 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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911hope said:
Vanden Saab said:
911hope said:
Only to people stupid enough to overlook all the obvious nonsense he spouts.

The fact that he makes it all sound simple doesn't make it true....appeals to 2 types of people.. far right and idiots.
Ah ha back to this again because it worked so well in 2016 and you call us idiots.
Yep the people who swallowed it in 2016 certainly were idiots. You brought about all the immigration that you were conned into thinking would be controlled by Brexit.

That's the thing with idiots..they are easily fooled and tend to not learn from their mistakes.
In which case everyones going to vote labour because only a idiot would vote for more of the last 14 years ?

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

103 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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The conservatives are as far right as the US democrats! Some of the lions on here need therapy.

anonymoususer

7,128 posts

63 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Fast and Spurious said:
The conservatives are as far right as the US democrats! Some of the lions on here need therapy.
loons not lions

anonymous-user

69 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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anonymoususer said:
rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?
Another liberal stitchup? Farages lawyers are going to be busy!

markh1973

2,388 posts

183 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Killboy said:
anonymoususer said:
rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?
Another liberal stitchup? Farages lawyers are going to be busy!
They don't want to look too closely- Farage is playacting the role of beer drinking man of the people

redrabbit

1,766 posts

180 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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LimmerickLad said:
You need to clear the site before you can rebuild with something newer and better suited to the 21st early 20th century.
Ftfy.

S600BSB

6,589 posts

121 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Was it ever in doubt.. 2-1

eharding

14,526 posts

299 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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redrabbit said:
LimmerickLad said:
You need to clear the site before you can rebuild with something newer and better suited to the 21st early 20th century.
Ftfy.
Something designed by Albert Speer, built to last the whole of Farage's Thousand Year Grift?

don'tbesilly

15,339 posts

178 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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anonymoususer said:
rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?
He probably took a bung. hehe




https://x.com/ticerichard/status/18074636253988867...

biggbn

27,171 posts

235 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
biggbn said:
don'tbesilly said:
S600BSB said:
biggbn said:
smn159 said:
I am alright Jack said:
biggbn said:
I am surprised at that. It is obvious that some people are racist, bigoted, whatever, and no party has exclusive appeal to them. Every party will have some undesirable, for whatever reasons, characters casting a vote for them. Some court these votes more than others I feel, end of the day, every vote cast is equal.
Yep. As Farage has only been back in the chair, so to speak, a short time it's far to early for him to have done much to clean things up, but I like to think that in time he will.
Farage doesn't want to 'clean things up'. He wants to normalise racist attitudes
I think his language is calculated and is being used to attract that type of voter who will be, I'd hope, be in a minority across the board, but they all count. It also has a degree of ambiguity about it designed to give him plausible deniability when subsequently challenged. Johnson used similar tactics.
Others disagree on this, and that's cool. I've been wrong many times before!!
I think that’s right. I’ve never believed that’s it’s just the old and thick who vote for Reform as some say. Lots of older folk are highly intelligent and wouldn’t go anywhere near Reform - even as a protest vote. I think we have to accept that some people in society really do hold racist and homophobic views and, like it or not, they see Reform as their current mainstream party of choice.
You might want to take your own advice from Friday

S600BSB said:
Come on man - it’s Glasto!
Do you think the reputed to be 5,000 people at the NEC earlier today are racist & homophobic?

What about the 130k people who watched it online, are they racists and homophobes as well.

That’s an awful lot of racist homophobic people, and they are all voting for reform according to you.
For the sake of clarity, and for the last time...nobody, I think, certainly from what I have read, is suggesting everyone who votes for, follows, attends meeting of or for the Reform party is racist. Some of us believe that some of Farage's language is suitable ambiguous and can be seen to be calculated to appeal to those who are, who, even though they are, I believe, in a minority in ANY party, still have a vote to cast. Nobody is saying all reform supporters are Racist...unless they are somewhat deluded.
Seems S600BSB is the exception, not only does he think they are racist, they are also homophobes


S600BSB said:
I think that’s right. I’ve never believed that’s it’s just the old and thick who vote for Reform as some say. Lots of older folk are highly intelligent and wouldn’t go anywhere near Reform - even as a protest vote. I think we have to accept that some people in society really do hold racist and homophobic views and, like it or not, they see Reform as their current mainstream party of choice.
....so, 600 didn't say that EVERY Reform voter was a racist, just that some elements of society who are will likely vote for them? Thanks for clarifying that man. fk sake, you guys make it difficult, on and off the pitch!!

S600BSB

6,589 posts

121 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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biggbn said:
....so, 600 didn't say that EVERY Reform voter was a racist, just that some elements of society who are will likely vote for them? Thanks for clarifying that man. fk sake, you guys make it difficult, on and off the pitch!!
Yeah, but we won 2-1!

skwdenyer

18,223 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
Tice blaming others for his lack of preparedness, screening and leadership? Son-of-UKIP suffers dirty tricks? They don’t like it up’em wink

rscott

16,356 posts

206 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
anonymoususer said:
rscott said:
Reform candidate quits the party - https://news.sky.com/story/election-2024-poll-suna...

"Whilst I have campaigned alongside many decent, honest and hard-working people during the course of the general election campaign in Erewash, the reports of widespread racism and sexism in Reform have made clear that there is a significant moral issue within certain elements of the party, and the failure of the party's leadership to not only take this matter seriously, but also to fundamentally address it, has made clear to me that this is no longer a party I want to be associated with."
Is this chap another actor ?
He probably took a bung. hehe




https://x.com/ticerichard/status/18074636253988867...
Another example of their failure to vet their candidates properly then?

LimmerickLad

4,108 posts

30 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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eharding said:
redrabbit said:
LimmerickLad said:
You need to clear the site before you can rebuild with something newer and better suited to the 21st early 20th century.
Ftfy.
Something designed by Albert Speer, built to last the whole of Farage's Thousand Year Grift?
Very deep fella....Godwin at it's finest.

Mr Penguin

3,456 posts

54 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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rscott said:
Another example of their failure to vet their candidates properly then?
Checking that your candidates actually support your party really is step zero of candidate selection.

MDMetal

3,117 posts

163 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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