Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[hairykrishna]

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

You seem generally pretty reasonable despite holding different views to me. I think you need to step back and have a think about why you're defending this bloke. What he said and his views seem pretty clear.

[S600BSB]

Mr Penguin said:

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

What was he saying if not equating the pride flag with paedophiles?

Well said.

[Elysium]

bhstewie said:

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

A man sees a Police car with a Pride flag on it and that's his reaction.

I'm quite comfortable which one of us is applying a "pretend version" of what he meant by it.

Yes. It’s you.

You don’t want to talk about what he actually said. You are only interested in the pretend version that you have made up.

[Elysium]

Mr Penguin said:

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

What was he saying if not equating the pride flag with paedophiles?

I’ve already explained that. Stewie didn’t want to read it.

[LimmerickLad]

768 said:

Just another unfortunate coincidence.

Of course it is Stewpid.

[rscott]

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

[LimmerickLad]

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

[Elysium]

hairykrishna said:

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

You seem generally pretty reasonable despite holding different views to me. I think you need to step back and have a think about why you're defending this bloke. What he said and his views seem pretty clear.

As I have said on several occasions in earlier posts I am not defending anything that this reform supporter has said.

The issue I have is that Stewie is repeatedly stating that his interpretation of these remarks is fact. However, I think Stewies interpretation is obviously wrong and that by failing to engage with the issues behind these views we are actually allowing them to flourish.

Pointing out that Stewie is wrong is not a defence of the original remarks.

[Rufus Stone]

Elysium said:

As I have said on several occasions in earlier posts I am not defending anything that this reform supporter has said.

The issue I have is that Stewie is repeatedly stating that his interpretation of these remarks is fact. However, I think Stewies interpretation is obviously wrong and that by failing to engage with the issues behind these views we are actually allowing them to flourish.

Pointing out that Stewie is wrong is not a defence of the original remarks.

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

[otolith]

tangerine_sedge said:

C4 are denying that they hired him, or that they even knew he was an actor before filming him. The actor himself has also stated that he was never hired by C4 and has apparently been a reform activist for months...

C4 are probably very embarassed that they didn't do due diligence on his background before broadcasting (for this very reason), but I don't think that negates the content as much as Farage is understandably claiming.

In any case I don’t think his acting career gives him a free pass to say whatever he wants without inference being made about his beliefs and the sort of person he is. Laurence Fox used to be an actor too, we don’t assume that whatever he spews is scripted.

[bitchstewie]

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

[Carl_VivaEspana]

768 said:

Just another unfortunate coincidence.

Happens quite alot around election time doesn't it.....

I mean, it does not take much internet searching to determine who your audience members are.

[Rufus Stone]

bhstewie said:

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

That the police should be out catching criminals instead of supporting Pride.

[markh1973]

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

[Elysium]

markh1973 said:

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

Like Stewie.

[Mrr T]

LimmerickLad said:

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

The tweet even gives his web site. He's clearly worked for a number of different companies. Dr Who is a co production with the BBC, QT is not produced by the BBC.

[turbobloke]

Elysium said:

markh1973 said:

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

Like Stewie.

Et al.

[Castrol for a knave]

Rufus Stone said:

bhstewie said:

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

That the police should be out catching criminals instead of supporting Pride.

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

[LimmerickLad]

Mrr T said:

LimmerickLad said:

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

The tweet even gives his web site. He's clearly worked for a number of different companies. Dr Who is a co production with the BBC, QT is not produced by the BBC.

But exclusively for the BBC Doctors for the past year which is produced by the BBC ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Studios_Producti...

Unless of course he could be one of the IR35 disguised employees we hear so much about so technically for tax purposes not an employee as such.?

[Rufus Stone]

Castrol for a knave said:

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

Think for a moment that 'fkers' is referring to Pride who the police are supporting with the flag on the bonnet of their car.