Reform UK

[LimmerickLad]

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

[Elysium]

hairykrishna said:

Elysium said:

It is clear that the things this person actually said are not the same as the things you are pretending he said.

Pointing that out is not making excuses for him. It is simply highlighting that your pretend version is wrong.

You seem generally pretty reasonable despite holding different views to me. I think you need to step back and have a think about why you're defending this bloke. What he said and his views seem pretty clear.

As I have said on several occasions in earlier posts I am not defending anything that this reform supporter has said.

The issue I have is that Stewie is repeatedly stating that his interpretation of these remarks is fact. However, I think Stewies interpretation is obviously wrong and that by failing to engage with the issues behind these views we are actually allowing them to flourish.

Pointing out that Stewie is wrong is not a defence of the original remarks.

[Rufus Stone]

Elysium said:

As I have said on several occasions in earlier posts I am not defending anything that this reform supporter has said.

The issue I have is that Stewie is repeatedly stating that his interpretation of these remarks is fact. However, I think Stewies interpretation is obviously wrong and that by failing to engage with the issues behind these views we are actually allowing them to flourish.

Pointing out that Stewie is wrong is not a defence of the original remarks.

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

[otolith]

tangerine_sedge said:

C4 are denying that they hired him, or that they even knew he was an actor before filming him. The actor himself has also stated that he was never hired by C4 and has apparently been a reform activist for months...

C4 are probably very embarassed that they didn't do due diligence on his background before broadcasting (for this very reason), but I don't think that negates the content as much as Farage is understandably claiming.

In any case I don’t think his acting career gives him a free pass to say whatever he wants without inference being made about his beliefs and the sort of person he is. Laurence Fox used to be an actor too, we don’t assume that whatever he spews is scripted.

[bitchstewie]

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

[Carl_VivaEspana]

768 said:

Just another unfortunate coincidence.

Happens quite alot around election time doesn't it.....

I mean, it does not take much internet searching to determine who your audience members are.

[Rufus Stone]

bhstewie said:

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

That the police should be out catching criminals instead of supporting Pride.

[markh1973]

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

[Elysium]

markh1973 said:

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

Like Stewie.

[Mrr T]

LimmerickLad said:

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

The tweet even gives his web site. He's clearly worked for a number of different companies. Dr Who is a co production with the BBC, QT is not produced by the BBC.

[turbobloke]

Elysium said:

markh1973 said:

bhstewie said:

Rufus Stone said:

Stewie's interpretation of language is more often than not literal. You know that.

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

It's obvious what he meant despite some on here, for reasons I can't fathom, trying to reinterpret it.

Like Stewie.

Et al.

[Castrol for a knave]

Rufus Stone said:

bhstewie said:

"You see that fking degenerate flag on the front bonnet? What are the old bill doing promoting that crap? They should be out catching nonces not promoting the fkers.".

What do you think he meant?

That the police should be out catching criminals instead of supporting Pride.

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

[LimmerickLad]

Mrr T said:

LimmerickLad said:

rscott said:

don'tbesilly said:

I thought the audience was very hostile, I wonder how many others were carefully selected

Doesn't look like he's a BBC employee - he's a freelancer who has worked for most of the major broadcasters.
Not surprising that includes the BBC

"For the past year I have been 1st AD on BBC Doctors."

HTH

The tweet even gives his web site. He's clearly worked for a number of different companies. Dr Who is a co production with the BBC, QT is not produced by the BBC.

But exclusively for the BBC Doctors for the past year which is produced by the BBC ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Studios_Producti...

Unless of course he could be one of the IR35 disguised employees we hear so much about so technically for tax purposes not an employee as such.?

[Rufus Stone]

Castrol for a knave said:

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

Think for a moment that 'fkers' is referring to Pride who the police are supporting with the flag on the bonnet of their car.

[119]

Been out for a few hours this morning and after checking in, thread does not disappoint.

A few in here could probably do with trying it.

[skwdenyer]

PRTVR said:

skwdenyer said:

PRTVR said:

The world is changing to the right, there is going to be many who are unhappy with it, but they will be totally unaware that the movement is a reaction to many of their left wing ideas.

There are a lot of theories, but many of them don't support your contention, but instead suggest that appeasement of hard-right views (cf UK Tories, Spain's People's Party, and others) results in greater success for right-wing parties - the centre-right parties legitimise the hard-right extremists.

But I think it is a bit early to say "the world is changing to the right."

The Tories hard right ? How far to the left do you have to be to think the Tories are far right ?
Even normally left leaning Sweden has switched to the right, USA, Argentina, Switzerland , Italy, Holland, France, the list goes on.

Read it again. I didn’t say the Tories were hard right. That’s the point.

[bitchstewie]

Rufus Stone said:

Think for a moment that 'fkers' is referring to Pride who the police are supporting with the flag on the bonnet of their car.

The video is here Rufus.

Watch it from around 7 minutes in for 30 seconds to see the comment I've been quoting and it's clear that isn't who he was referring to.

[Castrol for a knave]

Rufus Stone said:

Castrol for a knave said:

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

Think for a moment that 'fkers' is referring to Pride who the police are supporting with the flag on the bonnet of their car.

".....Catching nonces, not promoting the fkers".

I am trying to roll that around but it always comes back to the same. I think most people would read it as homophobic.

I think Farage should just put his hands up to this, say it was a couple of rogue canvassers and move on.

The whole C4 set me up makes him sound like the whiny politicians he wants to usurp.

[don'tbesilly]

Castrol for a knave said:

Rufus Stone said:

Castrol for a knave said:

Nice try, but I don't think that would get past Mr Beer.

Think for a moment that 'fkers' is referring to Pride who the police are supporting with the flag on the bonnet of their car.

".....Catching nonces, not promoting the fkers".

I am trying to roll that around but it always comes back to the same. I think most people would read it as homophobic.

I think Farage should just put his hands up to this, say it was a couple of rogue canvassers and move on.

The whole C4 set me up makes him sound like the whiny politicians he wants to usurp.

Strangely enough that’s pretty much what Farage has already done, and he’s said it on quite a few occasions, the last time on last nights QT

[Rufus Stone]

Castrol for a knave said:

".....Catching nonces, not promoting the fkers".

I am trying to roll that around but it always comes back to the same. I think most people would read it as homophobic.

I think Farage should just put his hands up to this, say it was a couple of rogue canvassers and move on.

The whole C4 set me up makes him sound like the whiny politicians he wants to usurp.

Catching nonces, not promoting Pride.