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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Elysium said:
It's not specifically limited to Reform, but I already gave one earlier around your attempt to brand Farage as a Russian propagandist.
You also did it in the Sunak thread, where you posted seveal times to condemn Conservatives who had gambled on the election date, but immediately excused the labour candidate who bet on himself to lose, dismissing it as an 'isolated incident'.
You seem to be one of the most partisan posters on these threads.
You mean the "Up to 15" Conservatives (according to the Telegraph) compared to one Labour candidate that are being investigated?You also did it in the Sunak thread, where you posted seveal times to condemn Conservatives who had gambled on the election date, but immediately excused the labour candidate who bet on himself to lose, dismissing it as an 'isolated incident'.
You seem to be one of the most partisan posters on these threads.
Oh and when you say I "immediately excused the labour candidate" could I just ask which bit of "If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care" you think is excusing it?
Do you honestly think your posts about Reform and the Conservatives are in any way neutral?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Oh and when you say I "immediately excused the labour candidate" could I just ask which bit of "If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care" you think is excusing it?
You don't use that very first word with any party other than Labour.Elysium said:
By the time we discussed this only two conservatives were under investigation (my source for this is also the telegraph).
Do you honestly think your posts about Reform and the Conservatives are in any way neutral?
You may be right I think it might have been just the six Conservative candidates at the time.Do you honestly think your posts about Reform and the Conservatives are in any way neutral?
Either way though I wouldn't say that "If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care" is excusing anything but perhaps you missed that post.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:crankedup5 said:
Unwanted in Reform U.K. and unwanted in society, expulsion is the way forward, sooner the better.
100% agree.Do you think this chap should still be standing as a candidate?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Elysium said:
It's not specifically limited to Reform, but I already gave one earlier around your attempt to brand Farage as a Russian propagandist.
You also did it in the Sunak thread, where you posted seveal times to condemn Conservatives who had gambled on the election date, but immediately excused the labour candidate who bet on himself to lose, dismissing it as an 'isolated incident'.
You seem to be one of the most partisan posters on these threads.
You mean the "Up to 15" Conservatives (according to the Telegraph) compared to one Labour candidate that are being investigated?You also did it in the Sunak thread, where you posted seveal times to condemn Conservatives who had gambled on the election date, but immediately excused the labour candidate who bet on himself to lose, dismissing it as an 'isolated incident'.
You seem to be one of the most partisan posters on these threads.
Oh and when you say I "immediately excused the labour candidate" could I just ask which bit of "If it's true it's clearly corrupt possibly illegal and they can throw the book at him for all I care" you think is excusing it?
crankedup5 said:
Plenty of young people (18-25) showing interest at this stage.
Mopping up disillusioned Labour and Tory supporters 2029.
Ex Tory MPs who lose next week move across.
Policy proposal development removing some of the more ‘fantastical’ stuff.
Plenty of Work required with focus upon attracting higher calibre of politicians.
Long term project.
If someone is disillusioned with those, why go to Reform rather than the Lib Dems or Green or even stay where they are? What will be the appeal? Mopping up disillusioned Labour and Tory supporters 2029.
Ex Tory MPs who lose next week move across.
Policy proposal development removing some of the more ‘fantastical’ stuff.
Plenty of Work required with focus upon attracting higher calibre of politicians.
Long term project.
Mortarboard said:
crankedup5 said:
Our Rwanda scheme is dead in the water, maybe the Brussels lot will offer passage under their similar scheme under development atm. 
Ironic really.
You a rejoiner now? Ironic really. 
Get yer own house in order, splitter! (
)M.
smn159 said:
Vasco said:
Still amused that so many posters on here claim that Reform is rubbish, racist, a wasted vote etc etc - but we now have many, many thousands of posts, still arguing about them.
If I wasn't bothered by Farage + Co I'm sure that I'd ignore the issue entirely.!!
It may have passed you by, but Reform are having a significant impact on the likely outcome of the election and deserve proper scrutinyIf I wasn't bothered by Farage + Co I'm sure that I'd ignore the issue entirely.!!
Mr Penguin said:
If someone is disillusioned with those, why go to Reform rather than the Lib Dems or Green or even stay where they are? What will be the appeal?
It would be interesting to see where "not conservative this time" voters would land, if Reform hadn't the profile it's got?Lab/LD or spoil/stay home?
M.
Mr Penguin said:
crankedup5 said:
Plenty of young people (18-25) showing interest at this stage.
Mopping up disillusioned Labour and Tory supporters 2029.
Ex Tory MPs who lose next week move across.
Policy proposal development removing some of the more ‘fantastical’ stuff.
Plenty of Work required with focus upon attracting higher calibre of politicians.
Long term project.
If someone is disillusioned with those, why go to Reform rather than the Lib Dems or Green or even stay where they are? What will be the appeal? Mopping up disillusioned Labour and Tory supporters 2029.
Ex Tory MPs who lose next week move across.
Policy proposal development removing some of the more ‘fantastical’ stuff.
Plenty of Work required with focus upon attracting higher calibre of politicians.
Long term project.
The appeal of Reform U.K. will be in its alternative offerings. That will be judged 2029.
Young first time voters hold well be turned off from Tory based on this last 14 years, and Labour in likely event 2029 sees the U.K still in decline.
crankedup5 said:
On the basis of what is reported and correct, ie not fakery, certainly not. Don’t need or want this stuff if Reform U.K. has any chance to develop into a serious political electorate option.
This is what's been reported around what Lilley commented on a post about a small boat arrival.Lilley is reported to have said:
I hope I’m near one of these scumbags one day I won’t run away I’ll slaughter them then have their family taken out.
And reported to have simply commented "gas" under a video of Muslims praying.Why do you think Reform haven't disowned him?
crankedup5 said:
Because Greens and Lib Dem’s have proven themselves to be unattractive with their established mandate offerings.
The appeal of Reform U.K. will be in its alternative offerings. That will be judged 2029.
Young first time voters hold well be turned off from Tory based on this last 14 years, and Labour in likely event 2029 sees the U.K still in decline.
I'll try this a different way - once they get into government what sort of policies do you expect/hope them to pursue?The appeal of Reform U.K. will be in its alternative offerings. That will be judged 2029.
Young first time voters hold well be turned off from Tory based on this last 14 years, and Labour in likely event 2029 sees the U.K still in decline.
crankedup5 said:
Because Greens and Lib Dem’s have proven themselves to be unattractive with their established mandate offerings.
The appeal of Reform U.K. will be in its alternative offerings. That will be judged 2029.
Young first time voters hold well be turned off from Tory based on this last 14 years, and Labour in likely event 2029 sees the U.K still in decline.
It's certainly interesting to consider the 2029 GE outcome if, as some might expect, Labour turns out to be lacklustre and does relatively little for most people - and upsets many by increasing taxes.The appeal of Reform U.K. will be in its alternative offerings. That will be judged 2029.
Young first time voters hold well be turned off from Tory based on this last 14 years, and Labour in likely event 2029 sees the U.K still in decline.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Yes I saw Sunak interviewed on the ITV lunchtime news, he was quite upset and angry (justifiably so) by what these scumbags said, especially the comments which were directed personally at him.
It looks like the bit part actor Andrew John Parker is going to get his collar felt along with the other scumbags that were in the video, perhaps the bit part actor can video his arrest and add it to his ‘Mandy’ profile and label it as a ‘Real Life Event’.
I suppose AJP’s defence would go along the lines of ”I was only acting guv’nor, honest” in his best cockney geezer accent.
Not sure why you keep stressing "bit part actor" unless you think he was acting.It looks like the bit part actor Andrew John Parker is going to get his collar felt along with the other scumbags that were in the video, perhaps the bit part actor can video his arrest and add it to his ‘Mandy’ profile and label it as a ‘Real Life Event’.
I suppose AJP’s defence would go along the lines of ”I was only acting guv’nor, honest” in his best cockney geezer accent.
Do you?
If he was let the Police deal with it.
Based on the evidence presented it appears he is acting, yes.
I did mention that the people in the video were likely to be dealt with by the Police, and welcomed that fact in my condemnation of the scumbags.
markh1973 said:
In my view none of them should be betting on either the election date or whether they are going to win or lose.
However the police are only investigating the election date issues so there is clearly a difference between the two in their eyes.
I think there is a difference. One is using specific insider information.However the police are only investigating the election date issues so there is clearly a difference between the two in their eyes.
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