Reform UK

[I am alright Jack]

Nigel Farage wins best news presenter award for the second year running.

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1915229/n...

May have been posted already but I couldn't be arsed to look, and anyway it's always nice to see Nigel's happy smiling face.

[skwdenyer]

thetapeworm said:

An old associate...

I do hope that happens. amongst the reasons we use pencils rather than pens is that a freshly-inked cross, followed by a swift folding of the paper, can - depending upon the pen - result in a second cross on the ballot paper, spoiling it.

So come to think of it, we should encourage Reform supporters to show their commitment to Ye Old Merrie England by using quill and ink. In fact, we could stand outside polling stations handing them out, together with a commemorative union jack canapé flag

[Mortarboard]

Dave200 said:

andymadmak said:

Dave200 said:

Perhaps, just perhaps, they are sitting back and thinking "this is what they wanted when they said they were going to take back control of their borders".

I hope thats not what they are doing. It would be petulant in the extreme and utterly heartless to allow people to set off to their deaths just to score some petty point over Brexit.

This was the "taking back control of our borders" that 51% voted for.

No no no.

There was a lord ashcroft poll and everything.

The big poster was just an allegory or summat. And reform having a fascist leaning candidate or two, and keep vamping on about immigration shouldn't be an indication of their intent or views

Allegedly.

M.

[Jockman]

Dave200 said:

andymadmak said:

Dave200 said:

Perhaps, just perhaps, they are sitting back and thinking "this is what they wanted when they said they were going to take back control of their borders".

I hope thats not what they are doing. It would be petulant in the extreme and utterly heartless to allow people to set off to their deaths just to score some petty point over Brexit.

This was the "taking back control of our borders" that 51% voted for.

Oh dear.

[Mortarboard]

skwdenyer said:

thetapeworm said:

An old associate...

I do hope that happens. amongst the reasons we use pencils rather than pens is that a freshly-inked cross, followed by a swift folding of the paper, can - depending upon the pen - result in a second cross on the ballot paper, spoiling it.

So come to think of it, we should encourage Reform supporters to show their commitment to Ye Old Merrie England by using quill and ink. In fact, we could stand outside polling stations handing them out, together with a commemorative union jack canapé flag

I would suggest they could hand out those little pencils like you get in the bookies, but some other party has them all

M.

[Disastrous]

Dave200 said:

turbobloke said:

As I haven't looked into the small print of Reform economics

An odd, but not entirely unexpected, position from someone who spends his day on the internet arguing in their favour. Fairly representative, I'd say.

Ouch!

You know how turbs goes quiet for a bit and slinks away when he takes a particularly sore one?

I reckon 3 day blackout before he reckons the coast is clear…

[S600BSB]

Disastrous said:

Dave200 said:

turbobloke said:

As I haven't looked into the small print of Reform economics

An odd, but not entirely unexpected, position from someone who spends his day on the internet arguing in their favour. Fairly representative, I'd say.

Ouch!

You know how turbs goes quiet for a bit and slinks away when he takes a particularly sore one?

I reckon 3 day blackout before he reckons the coast is clear…

I always assumed he had been banned? Still, he has over 104,000 posts. The Father of the PH House. Respect.

[PRTVR]

Disastrous said:

Dave200 said:

turbobloke said:

As I haven't looked into the small print of Reform economics

An odd, but not entirely unexpected, position from someone who spends his day on the internet arguing in their favour. Fairly representative, I'd say.

Ouch!

You know how turbs goes quiet for a bit and slinks away when he takes a particularly sore one?

I reckon 3 day blackout before he reckons the coast is clear…

how many people read the small print on anything, let alone the Political parties manifesto prior voting or supporting a party.
Reform voter here, in a Labour safe seat, but chatting with people I am surprised the number of people voting reform, call it a protest vote if you like but it will be interesting.....

[Vanden Saab]

Mortarboard said:

skwdenyer said:

thetapeworm said:

An old associate...

I do hope that happens. amongst the reasons we use pencils rather than pens is that a freshly-inked cross, followed by a swift folding of the paper, can - depending upon the pen - result in a second cross on the ballot paper, spoiling it.

So come to think of it, we should encourage Reform supporters to show their commitment to Ye Old Merrie England by using quill and ink. In fact, we could stand outside polling stations handing them out, together with a commemorative union jack canapé flag

I would suggest they could hand out those little pencils like you get in the bookies, but some other party has them all

M.

Parties, if the news has reached you...

[Mortarboard]

Vanden Saab said:

Parties, if the news has reached you...

Labour only used a couple, to be fair



M.

[911hope]

bad company said:

You called him a liar before but failed to come up with credible evidence.

Try putting any politician’s name into Google followed by the word liar.

He's promised to reduce NHS waiting lists to zero in 2 years, but has no intention of trying to do so.

It is completely implausible, so would this qualify as a lie?

He campaigned for Brexit to reduce immigration and the result is a huge increase. How about that being a lie?

How many times a day does he tell a lie about the other parties?

[Jordie Barretts sock]

911hope said:

bad company said:

You called him a liar before but failed to come up with credible evidence.

Try putting any politician’s name into Google followed by the word liar.

He's promised to reduce NHS waiting lists to zero in 2 years, but has no intention of trying to do so.

It is completely implausible, so would this qualify as a lie?

He campaigned for Brexit to reduce immigration and the result is a huge increase. How about that being a lie?

How many times a day does he tell a lie about the other parties?

To be fair, he has as much control over all of that as you do.

[Castrol for a knave]

911hope said:

bad company said:

You called him a liar before but failed to come up with credible evidence.

Try putting any politician’s name into Google followed by the word liar.

He's promised to reduce NHS waiting lists to zero in 2 years, but has no intention of trying to do so.

It is completely implausible, so would this qualify as a lie?

He campaigned for Brexit to reduce immigration and the result is a huge increase. How about that being a lie?

How many times a day does he tell a lie about the other parties?

He is set to transmit, As soon as an interviewer challenges him with detail, he plays the man.

The schtick is becoming evermore apparent and the man in the pub act wearisome.

[DeejRC]

And you were so receptive to it before Knave!
Another perspective would appear to be that his shtick is, in fact, still just as effective at doing what he wants it to do. A situation that you appear to eagerly encourage and participate in.
Just think how less wearisome it could be for you if you completely ignored him. A matter that is entirely in your hands.

[skwdenyer]

911hope said:

bad company said:

You called him a liar before but failed to come up with credible evidence.

Try putting any politician’s name into Google followed by the word liar.

He's promised to reduce NHS waiting lists to zero in 2 years, but has no intention of trying to do so.

It is completely implausible, so would this qualify as a lie?

He campaigned for Brexit to reduce immigration and the result is a huge increase. How about that being a lie?

How many times a day does he tell a lie about the other parties?

In fairness, his solution to NHS waiting list appears (from Reform's published stuff) to involve sending British patients offshore for treatment. How is the Rwandan health service these days?

[anonymous-user]

bad company said:

Yes. He changed his mind, he said just that.

Could that be called flip-flopping?

[rscott]

Have we had the article about Reform candidate who said Vladimir Putin "seemed very good".
He's standing in Salisbury!
https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/24407670.r...

[skwdenyer]

Killboy said:

bad company said:

Yes. He changed his mind, he said just that.

Could that be called flip-flopping?

With a knowing wink, IIRC, he said something like “yes, I’ve changed my mind; it is allowed, you know!”

Now, about that second referendum

[Elysium]

Vanden Saab said:

Vasco said:

Dave200 said:

I find it curious that there's so much (misplaced) emphasis on "small boats" from Reform supporters, but none of them seem willing to back Labour who pledge to stop them.
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-opposition-lea...

Of course Labour are also planning to deal with the actual immigration problems, rather than just standing on a cliff and pointing at the boats as evidence of a broken immigration system.

So, the big pledge from Starmer to the small boats issue is to work with our foreign colleagues. How is that different to the current arrangement ?

It is not. It is just a sop to the white knights who think anything bar taking them back or sending them somewhere else when they arrive will actually work.
You only have to look at the resources the EU has and their abject failure to do anything about the smugglers to understand that.

Labour are going to stop the small boats and control immigration by letting everyone stay here.

It’s not complicated.

You just need to remember that they are trying to hang onto their core voters, who want to give the immigrants council houses and a big hug, and the voters they are winning from the Tories who want to put them in jail or “send them back where they came from”.

So the fun game is to try and work out what Labour will actually do about it when they come to power with an unprecedented majority. I am going to say “nothing” as I reckon they will be too busy implementing all their new taxes.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Killboy said:

bad company said:

Yes. He changed his mind, he said just that.

Could that be called flip-flopping?

Yes if it is being done by whatever party you don't like. If it is being done by a party that you do support, it is called being flexible, listening to the public, being progressive, etc, etc.