General Election July 2024

[Speed 3]

valiant said:

ghost83 said:

No I’m voting reform! Love their policies

Pity they’re unworkable and uncosted.

Indeed, if you think Labour's policies are undeliverable, Reform have Truss-powered Nitrous Oxide levels of expectation failure.

[s1962a]

Dave200 said:

ghost83 said:

s1962a said:

Reform have a fella at the top who's an asian guy, who gave an impressive speech at their conference. Reform welcome assimilated immigrants and descendents of immigrants, especially muslim ones (as is this fella), but they dont want uncontrolled immigration to this country. They do have members who have said that Rishi Sunak is a , and some are even nazi sympathisers, and Nigel personally has an issue with Islam and young muslims (even though muslims like the asian fella are ok). Reform have also vowed to kick out any racists from their party, and seem to be doing so on a weekly basis.

Make of that what you will.

Nigel just wants to cut down on immigration and secure our borders nothing racist about that reform have a lot of Asian/muslim/sikh (forgive my spelling) candidates and donors so when people say you must be racist it rly does infuriate me as I’m far from racist

Can you point to the bit of our borders that's not "secure" right now, and that's causing our immigration numbers to be so high?

Also, how many Asian candidates does Reform actually have? I can think of two off the top of my head - one in Hackney and one in Leicester.

The bits of our borders that are not secure? Obviously it's the boats coming over from France. Thats what, 8% of the total migration numbers, with over 600k coming from India/China alone. 8% is a lot and we need to deal with this NOW.

In other news

As above, there is an asian muslim fella, who's parents came over in the 80's - this bloke went to private school, just like Rishi and he worked hard and made millions, so he's alright by Reform. However, another person, say Sadiq Khan, who also did well is not ok, cos he's the wrong type of asian muslim (i.e. he didn't donate loads of money to the campaign, and isn't a private school eduacated toff).

[s1962a]

Speed 3 said:

valiant said:

ghost83 said:

No I’m voting reform! Love their policies

Pity they’re unworkable and uncosted.

Indeed, if you think Labour's policies are undeliverable, Reform have Truss-powered Nitrous Oxide levels of expectation failure.

If you think the £ couldn't get any weaker, just wait till there is a whiff of these lot getting into power. Truss was just the dry run.

[thetapeworm]

Pie: Election Special #5: Labour

Edited by thetapeworm on Wednesday 3rd July 14:27

[judas]

Rufus Stone said:

Ace-T said:

Genuinely thinking of spoiling my vote.

What does that achieve?

Unfortunately, very little. But in the absence of a candidate or party that is worth a vote, or an option on the ballot paper for 'None of the above', it's that or stay at home. At least this way you can register your lack of trust, however pointless and futile it may be.

[carlo996]

Dave200 said:

Can you point to the bit of our borders that's not "secure" right now, and that's causing our immigration numbers to be so high?

Also, how many Asian candidates does Reform actually have? I can think of two off the top of my head - one in Hackney and one in Leicester.

Are you conflating ethnicity with competence? How many do they require to meet your standard?

[bodhi]

judas said:

Rufus Stone said:

Ace-T said:

Genuinely thinking of spoiling my vote.

What does that achieve?

Unfortunately, very little. But in the absence of a candidate or party that is worth a vote, or an option on the ballot paper for 'None of the above', it's that or stay at home. At least this way you can register your lack of trust, however pointless and futile it may be.

One of the few things I like about the US Voting process is the "write ins", so if you don't like any of the candidates you can write in who you'd prefer.

Not sure it ever amounts to much but I like the idea.

This election id probably be writing in "Pedro"...

[blueg33]

ghost83 said:

Ace-T said:

I have no candidate that represents what I want to vote for.

Conservative - I am not happy with their mismanagement, so nope
Labour - a candidate that presided over very dodgy, bordering on downright criminal mismanagement in a previous political role, so nope
Lib Dems - appear to want to jump asap back into EU irrespective of the issues the EU are facing at mo, so nope (rejoining EU on sensible and mutually beneficial terms is not a problem for me)
Green - they have not got a clue, so nope
Independent - see Green
Reform - I am not a racist moron, so nope

Genuinely thinking of spoiling my vote.

Why do ppl say reform voters are racist? Some of my black friends are voting reform! My wife is mixed race she’s voting reform
How can I be racist voting reform? Silly comment

Plenty of be people of various colours are racist.

BTW the phrase “some of my black friends “ usually indicates a racist.

[turbobloke]

blueg33 said:

Plenty of be people of various colours are racist.

BTW the phrase “some of my black friends “ usually indicates a racist.

Generalisations usually indicate dreck. There's another one for the mix.

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blueg33 said:

BTW the phrase “some of my black friends “ usually indicates a racist.

What a complete load of absolute bks.

[bitchstewie]

Stick a fork in 'em they're done.

THE SUN SAYS It’s time for a change…

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Are you still scared they might win?

[Unreal]

blueg33 said:

ghost83 said:

Ace-T said:

I have no candidate that represents what I want to vote for.

Conservative - I am not happy with their mismanagement, so nope
Labour - a candidate that presided over very dodgy, bordering on downright criminal mismanagement in a previous political role, so nope
Lib Dems - appear to want to jump asap back into EU irrespective of the issues the EU are facing at mo, so nope (rejoining EU on sensible and mutually beneficial terms is not a problem for me)
Green - they have not got a clue, so nope
Independent - see Green
Reform - I am not a racist moron, so nope

Genuinely thinking of spoiling my vote.

Why do ppl say reform voters are racist? Some of my black friends are voting reform! My wife is mixed race she’s voting reform
How can I be racist voting reform? Silly comment

Plenty of be people of various colours are racist.

BTW the phrase “some of my black friends “ usually indicates a racist.

Does it indicate the same when a black, brown or lime green person uses the phrase "some of my white friends"?

[valiant]

bhstewie said:

Stick a fork in 'em they're done.

THE SUN SAYS It’s time for a change…

You’ll be surprised to know that the Mail and Telegraph have come out for the Tories.

I was wondering which way they’d go as their headlines and articles have been very balanced of late…

[bitchstewie]

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[Sway]

Unreal said:

blueg33 said:

ghost83 said:

Ace-T said:

I have no candidate that represents what I want to vote for.

Conservative - I am not happy with their mismanagement, so nope
Labour - a candidate that presided over very dodgy, bordering on downright criminal mismanagement in a previous political role, so nope
Lib Dems - appear to want to jump asap back into EU irrespective of the issues the EU are facing at mo, so nope (rejoining EU on sensible and mutually beneficial terms is not a problem for me)
Green - they have not got a clue, so nope
Independent - see Green
Reform - I am not a racist moron, so nope

Genuinely thinking of spoiling my vote.

Why do ppl say reform voters are racist? Some of my black friends are voting reform! My wife is mixed race she’s voting reform
How can I be racist voting reform? Silly comment

Plenty of be people of various colours are racist.

BTW the phrase “some of my black friends “ usually indicates a racist.

Does it indicate the same when a black, brown or lime green person uses the phrase "some of my white friends"?

Yep, in the context of those people being accused of anti-white racism. Indeed, there's a minor tiff going on in the Detroit hip hop world for Eminem being called 'the white guy', by one of his closest friends...

[Mr Penguin]

Has any paper come out full force behind Labour? The "swing" papers support them but all have reservations.

[bitchstewie]

Don't think so.

What I've read seems mostly a mirror of society which is the Conservatives have forfeited any right to govern but most people are cautious Labour and aren't sure what Starmer stands for but they've just about done enough.

[markh1973]

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[Unreal]

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