General Election July 2024

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Carl_VivaEspana

12,498 posts

265 months

Wednesday
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philv said:
2 days until the uk votes in a far left socialist government with such a majority they can transform this country in a way not seen for a generation.
For good or bad.
Because people are pissed off with the tories.


Absolute nuts.

Every protest vote is a vote for socialism.
Brits live in a Socialist Country now, just with all the downsides of capitalism, a welfare state and none of the upsides.

Brits can see when they have been done over.

In a Renton accent (trainspotting for the Heretics that don't know).

Move to an actual socialist country and pay less tax than under the Tories, with a tenth of the crime, an actual high street that you can walk down without a smack head in sight, be able to afford to send your kids to private school, afford private health care because your mortgage is peanuts. Where there's no speed cameras and petrol costs a euro, where it doesn't rain all summer, where the lager is fresh cheap, cold , bronzed and so are the women.

Choose a tan, choose a beer bellly, choose an MX5 with a broken roof mechanism because you never fking use it, choose to be fking Gal Dove.

I didn't choose life, I chose something else - the Tories.

- End of Renton accent -

....(or the SNP if Scottish).

Honestly, it's back your bags time fellas, don't moan about what's coming.


JagLover

42,961 posts

238 months

Wednesday
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philv said:
2 days until the uk votes in a far left socialist government with such a majority they can transform this country in a way not seen for a generation.
For good or bad.
Because people are pissed off with the tories.

Absolute nuts.

Every protest vote is a vote for socialism.
Doesn't really matter if the Labour majority is 50 or 250 so that isn't really an argument. Also the Tories have proven they cannot be trusted and are merely there to offer the pretence of a centre-right alternative. Good riddance to them.

bitchstewie

52,623 posts

213 months

Wednesday
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philv said:
2 days until the uk votes in a far left socialist government with such a majority they can transform this country in a way not seen for a generation.
For good or bad.
Because people are pissed off with the tories.


Absolute nuts.

Every protest vote is a vote for socialism.
This is actually funny hehe

Are you genuinely as scared as you sound?

This is gold Britannias sewn in your belt and a go bag in the boot ready for when the commies come for you stuff.

How do you get this committed to a political party or ideology?

biggbn

24,404 posts

223 months

Wednesday
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philv said:
2 days until the uk votes in a far left socialist government with such a majority they can transform this country in a way not seen for a generation.
For good or bad.
Because people are pissed off with the tories.


Absolute nuts.

Every protest vote is a vote for socialism.
Far left? Say what?

Mr Penguin

2,024 posts

42 months

Wednesday
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JagLover said:
I think that is a bit unfair to the pollsters. In reality so many seats have become 3 or even 4 way battles that small movements, even of as little as 0.1% of the vote, can affect dozens of seats.

This is not a normal election.
I've never found a cliff edge when I've looked at previous elections or the MRP polls. I suspect they don't really know which demographic groups actually do tactical voting (which varies from election to election anyway), which groups are likely to protest, and which groups are committed to Reform. Perhaps even assuming that bellweather seats are the same as traditionally safe seats or not really understanding what will happen in safe seats with bad candidates who didn't expect to win.

The conditions are different for every election and it may be that this one has very different conditions but that will be something they look at.

Mr Penguin

2,024 posts

42 months

Wednesday
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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/posta...

Would be interesting to see multiple by-elections in the first three months of a new government.

JagLover

42,961 posts

238 months

Wednesday
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Mr Penguin said:
The conditions are different for every election and it may be that this one has very different conditions but that will be something they look at.
Yes, it does have very different conditions, one of the main parties in unprecedently low polling numbers.

This means they are only just holding on even in previously "safe" seats and a reduction in the national vote scores from even 24% to 23% then mean the loss of further dozens of seats.

Timothy Bucktu

15,386 posts

203 months

Wednesday
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BigMon said:
philv said:
2 days until the uk votes in a far left socialist government with such a majority they can transform this country in a way not seen for a generation.
For good or bad.
Because people are pissed off with the tories.


Absolute nuts.

Every protest vote is a vote for socialism.
Take off your blue tints and apply a smidgen of rational thought rather than hysterical shrieking. You sound like an Express columnist.
And you sound like a rude little 12 year old.

President Merkin

3,849 posts

22 months

Wednesday
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Little 12 year olds becoming aware of impending national service probably informs their mood obvs.

turbobloke

104,915 posts

263 months

Wednesday
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Lord Ashcroft argues that every vote still counts. For the precise result yes, of course, for the nature of the result not so much as the optimistic Tory vote still gives Labour a 13 point lead pollwise.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2024/07/my-final-cam...

DSLiverpool

14,864 posts

205 months

Wednesday
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Sunak should have announced the election and stood down, virtually anyone but him would have had a better chance. Granted it’s still a whitewash but without Sunak it’d be less of one.

119

7,453 posts

39 months

Wednesday
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DSLiverpool said:
Sunak should have announced the election and stood down, virtually anyone but him would have had a better chance. Granted it’s still a whitewash but without Sunak it’d be less of one.
yes

732NM

5,294 posts

18 months

Wednesday
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I predict independents will have a much higher vote share than usual.

fourstardan

4,582 posts

147 months

Wednesday
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Ed Davey is going to turn up like a shrivelled prune for his speech if winning on Friday.


FiF

44,540 posts

254 months

Wednesday
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Somewhat confused. BBC is out reporting on the campaign trail from the various party battle buses that are out and about.

When was that last day of no campaigning for a GE to allow voter reflection abandoned?

Clearly I've not been paying attention. paperbag

President Merkin

3,849 posts

22 months

Wednesday
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That happens on polling day. It's not polling day.

FiF

44,540 posts

254 months

Wednesday
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President Merkin said:
That happens on polling day. It's not polling day.
Thanks, knew about not on polling day, somehow had it in my head that we had the final day off.

borcy

3,452 posts

59 months

Wednesday
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Mr Penguin said:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/posta...

Would be interesting to see multiple by-elections in the first three months of a new government.
Behind a paywall.

borcy

3,452 posts

59 months

Wednesday
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FiF said:
President Merkin said:
That happens on polling day. It's not polling day.
Thanks, knew about not on polling day, somehow had it in my head that we had the final day off.
I seem to remember that as well.

768

14,074 posts

99 months

Wednesday
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DSLiverpool said:
Sunak should have announced the election and stood down, virtually anyone but him would have had a better chance. Granted it’s still a whitewash but without Sunak it’d be less of one.
When was the last Tory leader people didn't think virtually anyone could have done a better job?