General Election July 2024

[carlo996]

Pistom said:

I'm not going to start a new thread for this question but why are some people so reluctant to share who they're going to vote for.

Is it because they're ashamed or worried they'll be judged?

Lib Dem. Because in Henley it’s a two horse race and the other is Conservative. If Labour had any chance I would spoil the ballot paper as I think they are utterly inept and will bring chaos. Our fragile economy is not going to tolerate their usual stupidity.

[borcy]

carlo996 said:

Pistom said:

I'm not going to start a new thread for this question but why are some people so reluctant to share who they're going to vote for.

Is it because they're ashamed or worried they'll be judged?

Lib Dem. Because in Henley it’s a two horse race and the other is Conservative. If Labour had any chance I would spoil the ballot paper as I think they are utterly inept and will bring chaos. Our fragile economy is not going to tolerate their usual stupidity.

Who would you like to see in government?

[carlo996]

borcy said:

Who would you like to see in government?

If I had my way a coalition. Can’t trust either polarised government. Labour just fail me on all levels.

[Dingu]

Coalitions have a lot going for them. In theory should dampen the wilder elements of parties and generally keep things more moderate, in either direction.

[vaud]

Dingu said:

Coalitions have a lot going for them. In theory should dampen the wilder elements of parties and generally keep things more moderate, in either direction.

Agreed, but unfortunately in the UK, like referenda, we aren't used to them or the consequences.

I'm fine with any party having a healthy majority - providing the combination of the opposition can keep them in check for more extreme legislation.

[bigothunter]

Dingu said:

Coalitions have a lot going for them. In theory should dampen the wilder elements of parties and generally keep things more moderate, in either direction.

Various shades of grey with very similar policies regardless of which party you vote for.

[thetapeworm]

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

[sim72]

Pistom said:

I'm not going to start a new thread for this question but why are some people so reluctant to share who they're going to vote for.

Is it because they're ashamed or worried they'll be judged?

Labour. Because they are the only party that can turf out the Tories in my constituency (needs a 14% swing).

[I am alright Jack]

Pistom said:

I'm not going to start a new thread for this question but why are some people so reluctant to share who they're going to vote for.

Is it because they're ashamed or worried they'll be judged?

There's a post in the reform thread where someone openly says he'll judge anyone who votes for reform. Doesn't say exactly what he'll judge them as or how he'll know who anyone voted for, but that's what he says.

[carlo996]

I am alright Jack said:

There's a post in the reform thread where someone openly says he'll judge anyone who votes for reform. Doesn't say exactly what he'll judge them as or how he'll know who anyone voted for, but that's what he says.

[Rivenink]

vaud said:

Dingu said:

Coalitions have a lot going for them. In theory should dampen the wilder elements of parties and generally keep things more moderate, in either direction.

Agreed, but unfortunately in the UK, like referenda, we aren't used to them or the consequences.

I'm fine with any party having a healthy majority - providing the combination of the opposition can keep them in check for more extreme legislation.

People have a really weird understanding of how much power the Opposition has. It's often none at all.

The only time the Opposition ever get to stop the Government doing something is if enough MP's of the Party in Government rebel (or threaten to rebel) in votes.

A Government that has a sizeable majority increases the chance that it can pass legislation regardless of dissenters within their own party. Opposition parties are almost powerless, beyond asking about stuff in Commitees and in the Commons.

[Chicken Chaser]

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

[Rivenink]

Chicken Chaser said:

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

And he still only scratched the surface.

If Labour can manage to be only half as st, it'll be an improvement.

[Disastrous]

I am alright Jack said:

Pistom said:

I'm not going to start a new thread for this question but why are some people so reluctant to share who they're going to vote for.

Is it because they're ashamed or worried they'll be judged?

There's a post in the reform thread where someone openly says he'll judge anyone who votes for reform. Doesn't say exactly what he'll judge them as or how he'll know who anyone voted for, but that's what he says.

Sorry, I thought I was pretty clear with my first sentence. Reform have shown themselves to be riddled with some quite nasty people…Again, because let’s be honest, their fanbase is just a rerun of UKIP until it imploded too.

So, yeah, anyone who sees that and for any reason, feels like they can vote for it, is tacitly supportive of it.

[Boringvolvodriver]

Rivenink said:

Chicken Chaser said:

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

And he still only scratched the surface.

If Labour can manage to be only half as st, it'll be an improvement.

When you watch that then you have to wonder how anyone can vote for them. or even think that Reform might be the answer.

Labour will have their work cut out but to paraphrase D:ream “Things can’t get any worse”

Call Jonathan Pie on BBC sounds is also a good listen

[Ridgemont]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Rivenink said:

Chicken Chaser said:

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

And he still only scratched the surface.

If Labour can manage to be only half as st, it'll be an improvement.

When you watch that then you have to wonder how anyone can vote for them. or even think that Reform might be the answer.

Labour will have their work cut out but to paraphrase D:ream “Things can’t get any worse”

Call Jonathan Pie on BBC sounds is also a good listen

As a rant I give it 10/10.

As an accurate summary of history 1/10.
I like Pie. I think he is on a proper soap box shift there.
I could go through the list but frankly my life is too short and I would be wasting half an hour of my life to get a whole load of obvious rebuttals back.

[Rivenink]

Ridgemont said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

Rivenink said:

Chicken Chaser said:

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

And he still only scratched the surface.

If Labour can manage to be only half as st, it'll be an improvement.

When you watch that then you have to wonder how anyone can vote for them. or even think that Reform might be the answer.

Labour will have their work cut out but to paraphrase D:ream “Things can’t get any worse”

Call Jonathan Pie on BBC sounds is also a good listen

As a rant I give it 10/10.

As an accurate summary of history 1/10.
I like Pie. I think he is on a proper soap box shift there.
I could go through the list but frankly my life is too short and I would be wasting half an hour of my life to get a whole load of obvious rebuttals back.

Sounded accurate enough to my ears. Which was the most egregious inaccuracy for you?

[Ridgemont]

Rivenink said:

Ridgemont said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

Rivenink said:

Chicken Chaser said:

thetapeworm said:

Pie, Election Special Part 4: Conservatives

Top drawer commentary. A truly tragic state of affairs.

And he still only scratched the surface.

If Labour can manage to be only half as st, it'll be an improvement.

When you watch that then you have to wonder how anyone can vote for them. or even think that Reform might be the answer.

Labour will have their work cut out but to paraphrase D:ream “Things can’t get any worse”

Call Jonathan Pie on BBC sounds is also a good listen

As a rant I give it 10/10.

As an accurate summary of history 1/10.
I like Pie. I think he is on a proper soap box shift there.
I could go through the list but frankly my life is too short and I would be wasting half an hour of my life to get a whole load of obvious rebuttals back.

Sounded accurate enough to my ears. Which was the most egregious inaccuracy for you?

It’s a rant. With around 100 factoids. I’m not sure where to start. And it’s meant as entertainment. Fair play. As political analysis? Well as Jon Stewart said many years ago ‘I’m a comedian, not a politician!’. Pie entertains. He’s hardly David Dimbleby is he?

[blueg33]

Interesting programme on tv last night with Tim Harper looking at growth and how it has been delivered in the past.

In summary we need to spend on infrastructure at about 5x the amount we currently do. Short term tax increase or borrowing for long term growth.

Not sure either of the main parties has that policy.

Tim Harper is my choice for PM

[JagLover]

.:ian:. said:

Labour take the Euro and the England team get elected to the HOC? Sounds good.

The only thing worse than Sunak, or Starmer, as PM would be Gareth Southgate. He would probably make a law that all pedestrians have to wear crash helmets in case they fall over.