Missing lad in Tenerife

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KAgantua

4,665 posts

146 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
Were they eating 'that foreign muck' while supposed to be searching?

rallycross

13,514 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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carl_w said:
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
Boosting the stereotypical Brit scum bags abroad imagine!

TonyToniTone

3,858 posts

264 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

237 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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tleefox said:
“Massive search” turns up nothing, which I think will lead to the local police calling it a day - I’.
Done.

https://news.sky.com/story/jay-slater-search-for-m...

21TonyK

12,399 posts

224 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
tleefox said:
“Massive search” turns up nothing, which I think will lead to the local police calling it a day - I’.
Done.

https://news.sky.com/story/jay-slater-search-for-m...
Im sure the 30K+ will keep the family out there for a while so they can keep looking.

carl_w

9,857 posts

273 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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21TonyK said:
Im sure the 30K+ will keep the family out there for a while so they can keep looking.
£40k, well until they took some out

98elise

29,693 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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TonyToniTone said:
carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.
Which puts a completely different slant on it, and far more likely.


cossy400

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3,361 posts

199 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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98elise said:
TonyToniTone said:
carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.
Which puts a completely different slant on it, and far more likely.
What was he expecting?

People have to work etc

lets see what happens now with the GFM

ChocolateFrog

31,726 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Guess we're going to have to wait for the book now.

Its Just Adz

16,199 posts

224 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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ChocolateFrog said:
Guess we're going to have to wait for the book now.
There will be a channel 5 hour long special within the month, I guarantee it.

Rusty Old-Banger

5,728 posts

228 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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And it will paint him as an angel who fell down a cliff and won't mention anything bad about him.

98elise

29,693 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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cossy400 said:
98elise said:
TonyToniTone said:
carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.
Which puts a completely different slant on it, and far more likely.
What was he expecting?

People have to work etc

lets see what happens now with the GFM
Foreign nationals also work. There are a lot of retired British people in Tenerife.

The initial post read like the father was being xenophobic to those that had volunteered.

BoRED S2upid

20,685 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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Be interesting to see what happens next on this one. Considering other missing people / little girls/ women falling into rivers etc…

skwdenyer

18,224 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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BoRED S2upid said:
Be interesting to see what happens next on this one. Considering other missing people / little girls/ women falling into rivers etc…
There’s not much more they can do. They’ve followed the playbook, starting from the last known (or presumed) location and working from there. They’re not going to be able to commit unlimited resources to finding a body. Unless Jay is hiding / kidnapped / has fled, he’s not going to be alive now; unless there’s evidence of kidnapping, there’s nothing to go on. As regards hiding or fleeing, neither of those are offences; adults are allowed to go to ground if they wish.

As I know all too well, beyond a certain point it is no longer about grid searching and just about luck. Michael Mosley is a great example of that. Observers believe finding a body in the outdoors is easy. It isn’t. The scale of the problem is almost-unimaginable - unless you search every nook & cranny, you could “cover” an area and still miss them.

By comparison, finding somebody “on the run” is much easier - they need food, water and (potentially) means of transport, all of which involve coming into contact with other people (or risking same).

I think the authorities hoped they’d get a huge turnout from their “mass search” call. And they needed it. 100 people might have covered a bit of ground in a week; a dozen for a day is a largely token gesture.

Whatever the circumstances, I feel strongly for his parents; nobody should lose a child like this.

iphonedyou

9,911 posts

172 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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okgo said:
rofl

Are you serious! You’re asking if the police can access phone records?

This thread is fking mental.
And there I was thinking the sarcasm was visible from space. By a blind man.

skwdenyer

18,224 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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iphonedyou said:
okgo said:
rofl

Are you serious! You’re asking if the police can access phone records?

This thread is fking mental.
And there I was thinking the sarcasm was visible from space. By a blind man.
The short answer is, I believe, not all of them. Phone? Surely. Snapchat / WhatsApp / FaceTime? I don’t know.

As I’ve discovered with my sister, there doesn’t appear to be after-the-event tracking of phones easily available, in case it was that sort of record being thought of.

rallycross

13,514 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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As this happened in Tenerife would the U.K. police do any investigation at home? As in questioning his pal Lucy and the 2 guys from the air b n b who flew back to the U.K.?

If they did how would that get instigated as no crime has been committed in the U.K. ?

pingu393

9,528 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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rallycross said:
As this happened in Tenerife would the U.K. police do any investigation at home? As in questioning his pal Lucy and the 2 guys from the air b n b who flew back to the U.K.?

If they did how would that get instigated as no crime has been committed in the U.K. ?
What was the "McCann" crime that was committed in the UK? There is precidence for investigating crimes that affect Britons, but were not committed in the UK.

No ideas for a name

2,578 posts

101 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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98elise said:
TonyToniTone said:
carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.
Which puts a completely different slant on it, and far more likely.
It is somewhat misleading. Apparently the authorities did NOT want a bunch of holiday makers turning up to search.
Guardia Civil said, "To be clear, they are not asking members of the public, but people from volunteer associations or qualified who are experts in the rugged terrain. The area is a rugged, rocky area, full of slopes and with a multitude of ravines, paths and roads."

Ref https://www.canarianweekly.com/posts/The-Guardia-C...


skwdenyer

18,224 posts

255 months

Sunday 30th June 2024
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No ideas for a name said:
98elise said:
TonyToniTone said:
carl_w said:
rallycross said:
The police said 6 volunteer People turned up to help in the search today
The father has complained that none of them were English. Four Spaniards and two Germans I think.
That's not true, he said he was disappointed that not many brits had volunteered to help.
Which puts a completely different slant on it, and far more likely.
It is somewhat misleading. Apparently the authorities did NOT want a bunch of holiday makers turning up to search.
Guardia Civil said, "To be clear, they are not asking members of the public, but people from volunteer associations or qualified who are experts in the rugged terrain. The area is a rugged, rocky area, full of slopes and with a multitude of ravines, paths and roads."

Ref https://www.canarianweekly.com/posts/The-Guardia-C...
I agree with them. For my sister likewise, we reckoned for every 6 random volunteers we’d have 1 new casualty to deal with.