CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

[pavarotti1980]

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

[Rollin]

PurplePenguin said:

pavarotti1980 said:

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

The penny finally drops.

[pavarotti1980]

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

How do you suggest it is vetted? There is not enough personal information on the submissions to do so, especially since you can stick any details in

Are you saying YC data is unworkable now then?

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

How do you suggest it is vetted? There is not enough personal information on the submissions to do so, especially since you can stick any details in

Are you saying YC data is unworkable now then?

I was asking IF the yellow card system is vetted or taken at face value?

Presumably it’s not “unworkable” as it continues to be used. Are you saying YC data is of limited use because of a high % of “false” data inputted by “anti-vaxxers”?

[r3g]

PurplePenguin said:

I was asking IF the yellow card system is vetted or taken at face value?

Presumably it’s not “unworkable” as it continues to be used. Are you saying YC data is of limited use because of a high % of “false” data inputted by “anti-vaxxers”?

It's just an easy attack angle for those hard-of-thinking types as their programming throws up a syntax error when faced with the uncomfortable truth that everything the BBC and government has told them has been lies. "VAERS and YC system are all BS as every report has been put there by anti-vaxxers".
It's the same kind of attacks you see on people like JC who must be on the grift because he is only allowed the authority to speak if he is a "real" doctor and been given a greenlight by the BBC/government. When you ask how he's on the grift when he has no ads, his channel isn't monetised and he isn't flogging anything you are just met with radio silence and they scuttle off back to other threads until the dust has settled and they think you've forgotten about it . It's all very predictable.

[pavarotti1980]

PurplePenguin said:

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

How do you suggest it is vetted? There is not enough personal information on the submissions to do so, especially since you can stick any details in

Are you saying YC data is unworkable now then?

I was asking IF the yellow card system is vetted or taken at face value?

Presumably it’s not “unworkable” as it continues to be used. Are you saying YC data is of limited use because of a high % of “false” data inputted by “anti-vaxxers”?

I would say that anybody hanging onto the data as gospel is misguided because it is not verifiable. Wothin it will be genuine reports but try unpicking it. Remember as well injection site pain is a reportable adverse event so take those out the numbers too.

[andyeds1234]

pavarotti1980 said:

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

Yep, if there were no lockdowns, or vaccines were not produced, the same people would be outraged by the conspiracy of governments to let people die.
Whatever the consensus of the majority, take an opposing view.
Its what drives them.

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

How do you suggest it is vetted? There is not enough personal information on the submissions to do so, especially since you can stick any details in

Are you saying YC data is unworkable now then?

I was asking IF the yellow card system is vetted or taken at face value?

Presumably it’s not “unworkable” as it continues to be used. Are you saying YC data is of limited use because of a high % of “false” data inputted by “anti-vaxxers”?

I would say that anybody hanging onto the data as gospel is misguided because it is not verifiable. Wothin it will be genuine reports but try unpicking it. Remember as well injection site pain is a reportable adverse event so take those out the numbers too.

Presumably the medical profession does take notice of yellow card data - at least at a trend level.
Is the data gone through and things like injection sight pain accounted for as insignificant?

[rider73]

I would imagine a key word search algorithm and then a percentage of that randomly picked to validate manually, and after that trends are published.

You have to also wonder how much is not put into the UC system because your GP has written you off as anxiety, me CFS long COVID or rare for your age type disease and therefore many don't even consider it let alone know about the yc.

[pavarotti1980]

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably the medical profession does take notice of yellow card data - at least at a trend level.
Is the data gone through and things like injection sight pain accounted for as insignificant?

Ask the MHRA

r3g said:

As is always the case with your lot with your extremely dumbed down 2 IQ and blinkered view of the world where everything is "BS" or a conspiracy if your beloved government PR outlets such as the BBC don't tell you what to think and believe, all these people who have died "suddenly" since 2021, many of which happened within a short period after receiving their shots, and all those now suffering probable life-long disabilities are just making it up and it's all in their heads. Just ignore them and cast them aside as dismiss them as unfortunate collateral damage from the safe and effective vaccines as per the government PR outlets. Send them on their way with a never-ending prescription of anti-depressant drugs to get them addicted to and then forget about them as they all have mental health issues and are imagining it all.

All you have to do is back up your claims with some form of information yet you only feel able to post another load of unconnected bks.

Big pharma also isn't a problem when you need it though is it....

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Sunday 7th July 22:23

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Monday 8th July 06:42

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably the medical profession does take notice of yellow card data - at least at a trend level.
Is the data gone through and things like injection sight pain accounted for as insignificant?

Ask the MHRA


[quote=r3g
As is always the case with your lot with your extremely dumbed down 2 IQ and blinkered view of the world where everything is "BS" or a conspiracy if your beloved government PR outlets such as the BBC don't tell you what to think and believe, all these people who have died "suddenly" since 2021, many of which happened within a short period after receiving their shots, and all those now suffering probable life-long disabilities are just making it up and it's all in their heads. Just ignore them and cast them aside as dismiss them as unfortunate collateral damage from the safe and effective vaccines as per the government PR outlets. Send them on their way with a never-ending prescription of anti-depressant drugs to get them addicted to and then forget about them as they all have mental health issues and are imagining it all.

All you have to do is back up your claims with some form of information yet you only feel able to post another load of unconnected bks.

Big pharma also isn't a problem when you need it though is it....

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Sunday 7th July 22:23

Indeed, only a problem when you don’t need it but are led to believe you can’t live without it

[andyA700]

pavarotti1980 said:

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

Post his/her name on here and I will report them to the police, because I think that he is a despicable person given the level of suffering which I and many others are going through.

[andyA700]

PurplePenguin said:

pavarotti1980 said:

andyA700 said:

Yes, I have discussed your "story" with others in my situation and we have declared it b******t. When I and others submitted our symptoms and dates, we also submitted full details of the vaccine batch numbers.
I would also question the mental health issues of anyone who made false submissions such as that - why would they do it?

Because they are anti establishment, anti authority etc etc etc

Presumably there is some form of “vetting” of the yellow card reporting system? Otherwise all the false submissions would make it unworkable

Yes, I and all the others (thousands) had to put the make, batch numbers and dates of our vaccines on the submission. We also had to put details of our injuries/symptoms and the treatments/referrals which we had.

[andyA700]

rider73 said:

I would imagine a key word search algorithm and then a percentage of that randomly picked to validate manually, and after that trends are published.

You have to also wonder how much is not put into the UC system because your GP has written you off as anxiety, me CFS long COVID or rare for your age type disease and therefore many don't even consider it let alone know about the yc.

That is exactly what is happening with many people I am in contact with, since February of this year. They are being dismissed as having psychosomatic injuries - you know, it is all in your mind. How the F can blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, constant joint pain, balance and cognitive issues be all in the mind.
On 2nd July, I was due to have a telephone appointment with my GP in the afternoon - it didn't happen. )n 3rd July, my wife phoned the surgery at 08:00 and they told her that the GP would phone me that morning, but didn't apologise for the missed appointment. I received a text message at 12:30 saying that the GP would call me at 17:00 - he didn't and I haven't heard anything since.
As far as I am concerned, the NHS is an absolute disgrace and they are corrupt.
The GP surgeries were given lots of money to dispense these vaccines, they were a cash cow, like no other. They didn't care if their patients died or were being crippled by the jab. I daresay the lead GP at our surgery is very happy with his brand new AMG Mercedes.

https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/pharmacies-gp-practices-...

[andyA700]

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Presumably the medical profession does take notice of yellow card data - at least at a trend level.
Is the data gone through and things like injection sight pain accounted for as insignificant?

Ask the MHRA

r3g said:

As is always the case with your lot with your extremely dumbed down 2 IQ and blinkered view of the world where everything is "BS" or a conspiracy if your beloved government PR outlets such as the BBC don't tell you what to think and believe, all these people who have died "suddenly" since 2021, many of which happened within a short period after receiving their shots, and all those now suffering probable life-long disabilities are just making it up and it's all in their heads. Just ignore them and cast them aside as dismiss them as unfortunate collateral damage from the safe and effective vaccines as per the government PR outlets. Send them on their way with a never-ending prescription of anti-depressant drugs to get them addicted to and then forget about them as they all have mental health issues and are imagining it all.

All you have to do is back up your claims with some form of information yet you only feel able to post another load of unconnected bks.

Big pharma also isn't a problem when you need it though is it....

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Sunday 7th July 22:23

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Monday 8th July 06:42

I posted plenty of proof in my earlier post about stage 4 of the Covid Enquiry on 22nd May 2024, which you choose to ignore, because it goes against your unhinged conspiracy theories.

[pavarotti1980]

andyA700 said:

I posted plenty of proof in my earlier post about stage 4 of the Covid Enquiry on 22nd May 2024, which you choose to ignore, because it goes against your unhinged conspiracy theories.

I hope you are on about r3g here

andyA700 said:

Post his/her name on here and I will report them to the police, because I think that he is a despicable person given the level of suffering which I and many others are going through.

Report some random person for what exactly?

[Roderick Spode]

It's hilarious to watch Luciano's mental gymnastics here.

"The one official medium by which the injured may report those occurrences is rubbish because some pals of mine entered some false claims, thereby invalidating every other entry as false."

Suuuuure buddy. This definitely happened. I was the "Submit" button.

Meanwhile the 100% 'Safe and Effective' is definitely that, because the media told me so, and I've just dismissed the official reporting mechanism as false - "I need figures, no not those figures, other unspecified figures that I will further dismiss as unofficial and inadmissible..."

Would Sir care for the moon on a stick? It wouldn't matter anyway - pincushion experiment participants are desperate to refute any accounts of vaxx induced ailments, lest they disturb the miasma of cognitive dissonance that pervades wider society.

[RemarkLima]

I thought this may be of interest here:

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(19)30...

Given that the covid risk factors were higher for the old and the obese, this study highlights the damage done by poor diet.

The Lancet said:

In 2017, 11 million (95% uncertainty interval [UI] 10–12) deaths and 255 million (234–274) DALYs were attributable to dietary risk factors

So the message to eat well and look after yourself will hopefully become louder still...

[r3g]

Roderick Spode said:

It's hilarious to watch Luciano's mental gymnastics here.

"The one official medium by which the injured may report those occurrences is rubbish because some pals of mine entered some false claims, thereby invalidating every other entry as false."

Suuuuure buddy. This definitely happened. I was the "Submit" button.

Meanwhile the 100% 'Safe and Effective' is definitely that, because the media told me so, and I've just dismissed the official reporting mechanism as false - "I need figures, no not those figures, other unspecified figures that I will further dismiss as unofficial and inadmissible..."

Would Sir care for the moon on a stick? It wouldn't matter anyway - pincushion experiment participants are desperate to refute any accounts of vaxx induced ailments, lest they disturb the miasma of cognitive dissonance that pervades wider society.

spot on as usual.