CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

[Elysium]

J210 said:

This post is from yesterday……..

This dehumanising nonsense needs to be resisted. The NHS is not offered as a service conditional on the whims of someone’s unevidenced beliefs.

They have no right to bring these things forward or insist on compliance.

[pavarotti1980]

RSTurboPaul said:

Moderna decide that 5 month old babies should get three injections of mRNA-1345 or mRNA-1365 in clinical trials for new RSV and hMPV products:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTcGKbMv_0

Should they just stick with giving the 6 x monthly IM injections (from birth during RSV season) instead?

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

RSTurboPaul said:

Moderna decide that 5 month old babies should get three injections of mRNA-1345 or mRNA-1365 in clinical trials for new RSV and hMPV products:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTcGKbMv_0

Should they just stick with giving the 6 x monthly IM injections (from birth during RSV season) instead?

Neither

[RSTurboPaul]

RFK talks with Joe Rogan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LJXPOv4SM



Some very interesting discussion on Big Pharma practices / research and lack thereof / how he arrived at his 'anti-vax' views.

[cliffe_mafia]

PurplePenguin said:

pavarotti1980 said:

RSTurboPaul said:

Moderna decide that 5 month old babies should get three injections of mRNA-1345 or mRNA-1365 in clinical trials for new RSV and hMPV products:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTcGKbMv_0

Should they just stick with giving the 6 x monthly IM injections (from birth during RSV season) instead?

Neither

It's amazing the human race survived before we were able to give babies their 85 injections.

[pavarotti1980]

PurplePenguin said:

Neither

So you would prefer preterm babies be admitted to hospital with a serious respiratory virus instead? What an odd suggestion

Should we also stop injecting vitamin K at birth too?

[Countdown]

cliffe_mafia said:

It's amazing the human race survived before we were able to give babies their 85 injections.

I'm not a medical expert or a scientist but aren't vaccinations one the reasons for improved mortality rates?

[eldar]

Countdown said:

cliffe_mafia said:

It's amazing the human race survived before we were able to give babies their 85 injections.

I'm not a medical expert or a scientist but aren't vaccinations one the reasons for improved mortality rates?

Yup, but that's not the point. They may save your kids live, but they are really bad, just like the NHS.

[grumbledoak]

Countdown said:

I'm not a medical expert or a scientist but aren't vaccinations one the reasons for improved mortality rates?

Vaccine manufacturers have encouraged the belief. In truth our big killers had almost vanished by the time vaccines for them were introduced. The vaccine maybe saved the last 3% or so, or it might have happened on it's own, you can't prove it either way once you've jabbed everyone.

This used to be taught in medical school.

[RSTurboPaul]

grumbledoak said:

Vaccine manufacturers have encouraged the belief. In truth our big killers had almost vanished by the time vaccines for them were introduced. The vaccine maybe saved the last 3% or so, or it might have happened on it's own, you can't prove it either way once you've jabbed everyone.

This used to be taught in medical school.

So what you are saying is that by eliminating the control group, you remove the ability to assess the effectiveness (or not) of your product?

Like the mRNA injection trials and the subsequent attempt to force mandatory injections on the entire population down to 6 months old?

Interesting...

[Rollin]

RSTurboPaul said:

grumbledoak said:

Vaccine manufacturers have encouraged the belief. In truth our big killers had almost vanished by the time vaccines for them were introduced. The vaccine maybe saved the last 3% or so, or it might have happened on it's own, you can't prove it either way once you've jabbed everyone.

This used to be taught in medical school.

So what you are saying is that by eliminating the control group, you remove the ability to assess the effectiveness (or not) of your product?

Like the mRNA injection trials and the subsequent attempt to force mandatory injections on the entire population down to 6 months old?

Interesting...

Oh look, the 'how dare you call me anti Vax' crowd are back.

Keep fighting, brave soldiers

Edited by Rollin on Saturday 6th July 18:50

[r3g]

RSTurboPaul said:

grumbledoak said:

Vaccine manufacturers have encouraged the belief. In truth our big killers had almost vanished by the time vaccines for them were introduced. The vaccine maybe saved the last 3% or so, or it might have happened on it's own, you can't prove it either way once you've jabbed everyone.

This used to be taught in medical school.

So what you are saying is that by eliminating the control group, you remove the ability to assess the effectiveness (or not) of your product?

Like the mRNA injection trials and the subsequent attempt to force mandatory injections on the entire population down to 6 months old?

Interesting...

The IQ tests will continue. And most people will continue to fail them. Meanwhile doctor's surgeries and A&E departments will continue to be filled with endless lines of people with "sudden" cancers out of nowhere, "sudden" heart issues out of nowhere, "sudden" blood clots out of nowhere, various neurological issues and everyone will continue to be baffled. Just trust the multi-billion dollar profit-driven Big Pharma companies to take care of your health and well-being with their endless drugs and "vaccines" to ensure the latest deadly bogeyman is kept at bay .

[pavarotti1980]

r3g said:

The IQ tests will continue. And most people will continue to fail them. Meanwhile doctor's surgeries and A&E departments will continue to be filled with endless lines of people with "sudden" cancers out of nowhere, "sudden" heart issues out of nowhere, "sudden" blood clots out of nowhere, various neurological issues and everyone will continue to be baffled. Just trust the multi-billion dollar profit-driven Big Pharma companies to take care of your health and well-being with their endless drugs and "vaccines" to ensure the latest deadly bogeyman is kept at bay .

How many of these sudden issues have there been presenting in A&E in the last 12 months? Nearest thousand will do

[PurplePenguin]

pavarotti1980 said:

PurplePenguin said:

Neither

So you would prefer preterm babies be admitted to hospital with a serious respiratory virus instead? What an odd suggestion

Should we also stop injecting vitamin K at birth too?

Full term healthy babies don’t need these vaccines. Vitamin K is different but you know that already.

[Timothy Bucktu]

pavarotti1980 said:

r3g said:

The IQ tests will continue. And most people will continue to fail them. Meanwhile doctor's surgeries and A&E departments will continue to be filled with endless lines of people with "sudden" cancers out of nowhere, "sudden" heart issues out of nowhere, "sudden" blood clots out of nowhere, various neurological issues and everyone will continue to be baffled. Just trust the multi-billion dollar profit-driven Big Pharma companies to take care of your health and well-being with their endless drugs and "vaccines" to ensure the latest deadly bogeyman is kept at bay .

How many of these sudden issues have there been presenting in A&E in the last 12 months? Nearest thousand will do

All we have is the bottom line figure of excess deaths...which I believe is now hovering around the 10% mark worldwide in developed countries. The figure is much lower or at normal levels in some Eastern and less developed regions I believe.
And then we have the anecdotal evidence from friends and family, TV news and on-line.
Or you could just ignore all of it and carry on as normal...which is probably best if you're not a questioning type person...which most people aren't to be fair. In which case, thry wouldn't read this so it's a bit pointless typing it really.

[r3g]

You're wasting your time with that one Tim. Don't bother adding to the wear on your keyboard.

[pavarotti1980]

r3g said:

You're wasting your time with that one Tim. Don't bother adding to the wear on your keyboard.

But you said about all these issues. For context surely it is vital to know how many this "crisis" involves. If it's hundreds of thousands which you can verify then it needs investigating but if you are just making up.numbers without any knowledge, validation or insight it can safely be marked down as bullst

[r3g]

pavarotti1980 said:

But you said about all these issues. For context surely it is vital to know how many this "crisis" involves. If it's hundreds of thousands which you can verify then it needs investigating but if you are just making up.numbers without any knowledge, validation or insight it can safely be marked down as bullst

"Vital to know", "needs investigating". It's cute how after 4.5 years you suddenly decide to take an interest and now it's all really important it must be investigated. No, you're just st-stirring as usual. Off you go back to the comfort and safety of your other thread when you'll be reassured that it's all just CT nonsense and Big Pharma will look after you, just trust the science and experts.

[andyA700]

pavarotti1980 said:

r3g said:

You're wasting your time with that one Tim. Don't bother adding to the wear on your keyboard.

But you said about all these issues. For context surely it is vital to know how many this "crisis" involves. If it's hundreds of thousands which you can verify then it needs investigating but if you are just making up.numbers without any knowledge, validation or insight it can safely be marked down as bullst

I have posted this before on this thread and people like you have dismissed it. It is stage four of the Covid vaccine injury enquiry, held on 22nd May 2024, with witnesses, solicitors, barristers and KC's present. The below from page 71.

"The delay in the Inquiry recording a clear factual
narrative also undermines its ability to make meaningful
recommendations for change, which we know are important
to you, my Lady. We have impressed on you before the
sheer number of people in the UK likely to have been
injured by the Covid-19 vaccines. As of 10 May 2024 we
understand the Yellow Card system to have received 2,688
reports of fatalities and 486,250 individual reports,
over 300,000 of which were reported as serious"

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploa...

[pavarotti1980]

r3g said:

"Vital to know", "needs investigating". It's cute how after 4.5 years you suddenly decide to take an interest and now it's all really important it must be investigated. No, you're just st-stirring as usual. Off you go back to the comfort and safety of your other thread when you'll be reassured that it's all just CT nonsense and Big Pharma will look after you, just trust the science and experts.

So it's bullst then :rofl

Thought so

andyA700 said:

I have posted this before on this thread and people like you have dismissed it. It is stage four of the Covid vaccine injury enquiry, held on 22nd May 2024, with witnesses, solicitors, barristers and KC's present. The below from page 71.

"The delay in the Inquiry recording a clear factual
narrative also undermines its ability to make meaningful
recommendations for change, which we know are important
to you, my Lady. We have impressed on you before the
sheer number of people in the UK likely to have been
injured by the Covid-19 vaccines. As of 10 May 2024 we
understand the Yellow Card system to have received 2,688
reports of fatalities and 486,250 individual reports,
over 300,000 of which were reported as serious"

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploa...

And i said before do we know that the Yellow Card figures are accurate because you can make up any old ste on them if you really wanted to. As I have said before, I know someone who submitted 3 despite never having any vaccine

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Sunday 7th July 11:36