General Election July 2024

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bitchstewie

58,543 posts

225 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Sounds like they've thrown the towel in.

Is Starmergeddon Coming for the Tories?

Iain Dale is pretty well connected.

CivicDuties

7,729 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
CivicDuties said:
Missing two jokes in one go, top marks DBS.

Despite all the st parenting, humour is still a thing in our household, here's my son's idea of a laugh today, lying in wait for me on the staircase.



Gave me a little chuckle on the way down to get a cup of tea, he's a good lad in reality, been out helping the LibDem campaign in a local "safe" Tory seat which they're targeting to win. Sad thing is the previous incumbent, an old school Tory big beast, has chickened out and isn't standing, depriving us of a nice Portillo moment next week. Oh well.
Nice touch from the son by the way, I’m a tad surprised he’s in the UK at the mo & not on a gap year serving Latte’s in Barcelona or Nice.

You went to the ends of the earth to get him an EU passport (apparently) and he’s now going to vote Reform if he can get hold of your polling card. hehe

You need to being hiding any forms of ID and that card, the little rascal!

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Er, he's not voting Reform, he's out campaigning for the LibDems as I said. He's got his own polling card, too, being an adult.

I appreciate the effort at humour, but don't give up the day job, Clacton needs its Lattes (no apostrophe needed) too.

the-photographer

4,016 posts

191 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Upinflames said:
Fair bit of noise around Reform content being taken down by Meta and Alphabet this morning
The back of the queue one?

donkmeister

10,264 posts

115 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Upinflames said:
Fair bit of noise around Reform content being taken down by Meta and Alphabet this morning
What, in particular, was taken down? What were the reasons?

A quick Google didn't reveal anything, but the usual reason for content being taken down is that it violates policies set by the companies who own the platform. Not political orientation.

For an extreme take, if you posted a video shouting "vote Labour!" whilst waving your willy at the camera, that will get taken down for violating the "don't post videos of your knob" rules. But if you post a video saying "I love Reform, and Farage is a lovely person" whilst keeping your willy hidden, then that will stay.

Likewise saying "oooh, I really don't like (insert name of politician) because they're a silly sausage", that is fine. But "I wish someone would kill (insert name of politician)" is not. This latter type of statement seems to trip up Corbynites more than most as they have the "supporting terrorism is fine just so long as you change your hairstyle between then and any interviews on the matter" mindset, but it is the incitement to violence that is the issue, not the politics.

p1stonhead

27,663 posts

182 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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bhstewie said:
Sounds like they've thrown the towel in.

Is Starmergeddon Coming for the Tories?

Iain Dale is pretty well connected.
Isn’t Iain Dale the guy who quit the radio to become a Tory candidate, then was heard saying the place he was going to represent was a sthole or something to that effect?

They are all just a bunch of scum aren’t they. Why even bother if you hate the place? Just an ego trip?

bitchstewie

58,543 posts

225 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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p1stonhead said:
Isn’t Iain Dale the guy who quit the radio to become a Tory candidate, then was heard saying the place he was going to represent was a sthole or something to that effect?

They are all just a bunch of scum aren’t they. Why even bother if you hate the place? Just an ego trip?
This one.

Iain Dale drops MP bid after Tunbridge Wells comments

He's had his odd moment like that one and there was something a few years ago where he was trying to manhandle someone out of shot during some political interview or something.

I listen to his LBC show a lot and he's someone who I think was doing it for the right reasons tbh.

I don't know if he'd have had to give up his media commitments if he's been elected but I'd be reasonably sure he wasn't doing it for the money and he felt he could make a difference.

The Hypno-Toad

12,890 posts

220 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
Well I'm guessing that before he got on the ride, he had found himself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife...

captain_cynic

15,108 posts

110 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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robemcdonald said:
BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.
Nonononononono, Humour is only permitted as an excuse for bigotry and only when it's their bigotry that needs to be excused.

Bonefish Blues

31,792 posts

238 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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The Hypno-Toad said:
don'tbesilly said:
Well I'm guessing that before he got on the ride, he had found himself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife...
smile

S600BSB

6,590 posts

121 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Bonefish Blues said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
don'tbesilly said:
Well I'm guessing that before he got on the ride, he had found himself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife...
smile
Love that

CivicDuties

7,729 posts

45 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Bonefish Blues said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
don'tbesilly said:
Well I'm guessing that before he got on the ride, he had found himself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife...
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Sick Byrne.

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RemarkLima

2,657 posts

227 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Only had the incumbent Mark Francois leaflet through the door, boasting about how he achieved everything in the whole area - which is unlikely, as I doubt he could arrange a proverbial in a drinking establishment.

Then today, received a Reform leaflet. Very, very thin on the details - just a picture of the chap pointing at the camera, then the other side 4 bullet points - Stop the boats (obvs), net zero immigration (see point 1?), lower taxes (I also need a unicorn) and of course, cheaper energy.

I am not convinced they actually have anything sensible, or are just throwing out keywords - maybe it should have had a trigger warning for both sides of the debate?

Nothing from anyone else so far... I think the Right Honourable Mark Francois will be in yet again, steady lifer - but Reform could do some damage here?

The Hypno-Toad

12,890 posts

220 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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CivicDuties said:
Bonefish Blues said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
don'tbesilly said:
Well I'm guessing that before he got on the ride, he had found himself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife...
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Sick Byrne.

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Excellent. Well done on that one. clap

S600BSB

6,590 posts

121 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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RemarkLima said:
Only had the incumbent Mark Francois leaflet through the door, boasting about how he achieved everything in the whole area - which is unlikely, as I doubt he could arrange a proverbial in a drinking establishment.

Then today, received a Reform leaflet. Very, very thin on the details - just a picture of the chap pointing at the camera, then the other side 4 bullet points - Stop the boats (obvs), net zero immigration (see point 1?), lower taxes (I also need a unicorn) and of course, cheaper energy.

I am not convinced they actually have anything sensible, or are just throwing out keywords - maybe it should have had a trigger warning for both sides of the debate?

Nothing from anyone else so far... I think the Right Honourable Mark Francois will be in yet again, steady lifer - but Reform could do some damage here?
Latest Ipsos poll has him only 6 points ahead of Labour. If Reform can keep building then there is just a chance he could be booted out. Hopefully some LDs will vote tactically for the Labour candidate too.

RemarkLima

2,657 posts

227 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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S600BSB said:
Latest Ipsos poll has him only 6 points ahead of Labour. If Reform can keep building then there is just a chance he could be booted out. Hopefully some LDs will vote tactically for the Labour candidate too.
He's been the local MP since 2010! 14 years - it would be good to get some fresh blood into the area I'm sure smile

dbdb

4,450 posts

188 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Very few boards out here of any type - there are normally quite a few. I saw a Tory one yesterday, that's about it. There are usually quite a few from the Conservatives and Liberal democrats in this area, but not this time.

So far only one campaign leaflet from Labour and nothing from any of the other parties. The leaflet was really poor: only one 'fact' - that the candidate is the only local person running (which isn't true as he is not local and at least one of the others is) and no policies mentioned. Just a load of May-style 'strong and stable', this time from Labour.

I wonder if the Conservatives are very short of campaign funds here since this is traditionally a very safe seat, but has been flagged as 'at risk' in the media.

I find myself boggled at the desperately poor quality of the alternatives in front of me. I will probably vote Conservative, not because I want to (I don't) nor because they deserve my vote (they really don't), but because I fear that Starmer's utter lack of candour or honesty might be a cover for a strong swing to the left. I simply do not know what he stands for - but the party itself has too much of a whiff of Rayner, Corbyn and the class-based hatred of 'Old Labour'.

I voted for Tony Blair back in 1997 and would like to vote the current corrupt shambles out, but this time it feels very different from Blair's coherent and well articulated 'Government in waiting' - and the big majority they are likely to win this time could turn out to be dangerous. I Despair at it.

MC Bodge

24,777 posts

190 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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Unreal said:
robemcdonald said:
BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.
It's possibly the only funny thing about Stuart Lee. He is about as entertaining as kidney stones and less literate.
That's quite an endorsement. It could be put on his promotional material.

captain_cynic

15,108 posts

110 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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MC Bodge said:
Unreal said:
robemcdonald said:
BoomerPride said:
turbobloke said:
robemcdonald said:
To paraphrase Stewart Lee. It’s not idiots planning to vote reform. It’s s too.
Ye gods.
Ye Gods indeed!
It’s a bit of humour don’t get too upset.
It's possibly the only funny thing about Stuart Lee. He is about as entertaining as kidney stones and less literate.
That's quite an endorsement. It could be put on his promotional material.
The odd thing is, I'd never had two thoughts about Stuart Lee until Unreal mentioned how unfunny he is.

I think I'll definitely have to check him out now.

MC Bodge

24,777 posts

190 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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RemarkLima said:
Only had the incumbent Mark Francois leaflet through the door, boasting about how he achieved everything in the whole area - which is unlikely, as I doubt he could arrange a proverbial in a drinking establishment.
Lucky man for having a Spartan military hero representing you

B'stard Child

30,243 posts

261 months

Monday 24th June 2024
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dbdb said:
I voted for Tony Blair back in 1997 and would like to vote the current corrupt shambles out, but this time it feels very different from Blair's coherent and well articulated 'Government in waiting' - and the big majority they are likely to win this time could turn out to be dangerous. I Despair at it.
I voted for Blair in 1997 too - Conservative party was a mess and deserved the kicking they got IMO - he offered credible alternative

Labour aren’t offering that at the moment IMO

I’ve never not voted in any general election so not voting isn’t an option.

I’d love to see Truss get her P45 - I certainly won’t vote conservative while she remains the constituency MP but I can’t hold my nose and vote Labour.

We do have an independent candidate (ex conservative) standing but can’t see him doing very well although if enough local voters see him as a better choice than Truss as opposed to reform or labour he might do ok

So spoil the ballot seems the obvious answer or if I’m in good mood on the day see if I can help a fringe MRLM candidate to not lose his deposit biggrin

Mrs BC has already voted Reform and she normally votes labour every time so maybe the std view on here that reform will only take votes from conservatives is slightly misplaced (straw poll of one I know)